Configured Workholding Template Buggy/Broken

[a.laasW8M6T]

So I built a Configured Workholding template back in May and its worked Flawlessly up until when I opened it yesterday and found that the Joints on some of the configuration appear to be broken/ misbehaving.

See Video for what's happening.

I'm really struggling to figure out how/where it gone wrong or if this is a bug?

I haven't made any changes to the file since May

Also why does the forum STILL not allow uploading of some .f3z files?

[a.laasW8M6T]

So I built a Configured Workholding template back in May and its worked Flawlessly up until when I opened it yesterday and found that the Joints on some of the configuration appear to be broken/ misbehaving.

See Video for what's happening.

I'm really struggling to figure out how/where it gone wrong or if this is a bug?

I haven't made any changes to the file since May

Also why does the forum STILL not allow uploading of some .f3z files?

[TrippyLighting]

@seth.madore , can you please move this to the manufacturing section of the forum?

[TrippyLighting]

@seth.madore , can you please move this to the manufacturing section of the forum?

[jhackney1972]

This Forum post is about Configurations so it is in the correct Forum.  The components may be used in machining but that does not mean it should be moved.

[jhackney1972]

This Forum post is about Configurations so it is in the correct Forum.  The components may be used in machining but that does not mean it should be moved.

[TrippyLighting]

Ooops! You are correct @jhackney1972 , I misinterpreted the post.

[TrippyLighting]

Ooops! You are correct @jhackney1972 , I misinterpreted the post.

[a.laasW8M6T]

Hmm, In retrospect the title is probably not the best, I should have put "Configured Design" rather than "Configured Workholding Template"

Any way if you guys have any insights it would be valuable to know if this is a bug or just an error on my Part.

I'll tag @karina.harper to have a look too.

Cheers

Andrew

[a.laasW8M6T]

Hmm, In retrospect the title is probably not the best, I should have put "Configured Design" rather than "Configured Workholding Template"

Any way if you guys have any insights it would be valuable to know if this is a bug or just an error on my Part.

I'll tag @karina.harper to have a look too.

Cheers

Andrew

[seth.madore]

I'll share this with my colleagues as well, the more eyes the better 🙂

[seth.madore]

I'll share this with my colleagues as well, the more eyes the better 🙂

[mattdlr89 · Accepted solution]

Have you tried rebuilding it by pressing Ctrl + B?

Edit: press control + B after you have selected the dodgy configuration. 

[mattdlr89 · Accepted solution]

Have you tried rebuilding it by pressing Ctrl + B?

Edit: press control + B after you have selected the dodgy configuration. 

[matthewyatesHRCK5 · Accepted solution]

I had the same problem when I tried building up a configured work holding template configuring the suppression of components.   Ctrl-B will resolve it, but you need to keep using Ctrl-B often when you make changes.

With the help of James Mann at Autodesk I was able to build one up using a few different sub assemblies configuring the insert of the component which does not suffer from the same refresh issue.  

Any chance you are going to Autodesk University?  James and I are doing a presentation on the Tuesday afternoon showing how to build it up.

[matthewyatesHRCK5 · Accepted solution]

I had the same problem when I tried building up a configured work holding template configuring the suppression of components.   Ctrl-B will resolve it, but you need to keep using Ctrl-B often when you make changes.

With the help of James Mann at Autodesk I was able to build one up using a few different sub assemblies configuring the insert of the component which does not suffer from the same refresh issue.  

Any chance you are going to Autodesk University?  James and I are doing a presentation on the Tuesday afternoon showing how to build it up.

[a.laasW8M6T]

@mattdlr89  Thanks this does indeed work

@matthewyatesHRCK5 I won't be going to AU, NZ is a bit far away for me to shell out money for that and Work won't pay for it.

I did see you and James' presentation in the CAB though.

It is interesting that I need to use Rebuild as it used to work fine. this seems to be an Issue with Configurations that Autodesk need to work on, I never would have found Control-B to rebuild/Compute all by myself

[a.laasW8M6T]

@mattdlr89  Thanks this does indeed work

@matthewyatesHRCK5 I won't be going to AU, NZ is a bit far away for me to shell out money for that and Work won't pay for it.

I did see you and James' presentation in the CAB though.

It is interesting that I need to use Rebuild as it used to work fine. this seems to be an Issue with Configurations that Autodesk need to work on, I never would have found Control-B to rebuild/Compute all by myself

[seth.madore]

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@a.laasW8M6T wrote:

It is interesting that I need to use Rebuild as it used to work fine. this seems to be an Issue with Configurations that Autodesk need to work on, I never would have found Control-B to rebuild/Compute all by myself

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Yeah, that's far less than ideal, for sure

[seth.madore]

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@a.laasW8M6T wrote:

It is interesting that I need to use Rebuild as it used to work fine. this seems to be an Issue with Configurations that Autodesk need to work on, I never would have found Control-B to rebuild/Compute all by myself

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Yeah, that's far less than ideal, for sure

[matthewyatesHRCK5]

@a.laasW8M6T 

It started happening for me rather early on in my adventure with configurations. 

I brought it up to the configurations team at AU last year and they noted to investigate it further, but I haven't seen any update on it.

[matthewyatesHRCK5]

@a.laasW8M6T 

It started happening for me rather early on in my adventure with configurations. 

I brought it up to the configurations team at AU last year and they noted to investigate it further, but I haven't seen any update on it.

[mattdlr89]

Same here, it's been a common problem for us since I started using configured designs on our workholding. At some point I will rebuild our workholding template taking the best practice shown by you @matthewyatesHRCK5.

[mattdlr89]

Same here, it's been a common problem for us since I started using configured designs on our workholding. At some point I will rebuild our workholding template taking the best practice shown by you @matthewyatesHRCK5.

[kgrunawalt]

This looks like a problem that has been fixed internally fairly recently and should be in next release or so. I downloaded the f3z and could not produce the bad states by changing configurations using the fixed build.

The issue is related to parameters in a theme table. The rebuild all approach will work for now but obviously that should not be required and is pretty heavy and easy to miss.

[kgrunawalt]

This looks like a problem that has been fixed internally fairly recently and should be in next release or so. I downloaded the f3z and could not produce the bad states by changing configurations using the fixed build.

The issue is related to parameters in a theme table. The rebuild all approach will work for now but obviously that should not be required and is pretty heavy and easy to miss.