classical 3D relief across complex surfaces

[Anonymous]

Hello.

I apologize if this has been covered, but I didn't see it.

I'm new to fusion 360, contemplating a permanent change but still in the first month.

I'm looking to make a series of console corbels with a relief carved across the exposed s-face.

In this case, the relief will be of Acanthus leaves.

I come from Vectric, and really don't have much experience in this application but see immense possibility in its ability to model three dimensionally.  I'd like to get this worked out here, and it is different enough that I don't see much use in importing files from a Vectric program.  Even if there was a use for this, I wouldn't know how (yet).

Thank you in advance.

[TrippyLighting]

Could you please attach an image of what the geometry you are trying to create looks like ?

[Anonymous]

Something like this, but with less hand carving and without the leaf on the bottom.

Thanks

[TrippyLighting]

Wow. This is quite an intricate model.

If I'd model this it would likely be a mixture of T-Splines and lofts in the Patch environment.

To be more specific the base body with the curl on the lower end would be created maybe in. the Model Environment but more likely in the Patch environment with surface lofts.

The leaf ornamentation would be completely done as T-Splines.

That only covers the modeling side. In cannot comment on the CAM side, but there are plenty of wood workers here on the Forum that I believe have experience with this.

[Anonymous]

Thank you.

To be honest, "wow" is not what I wanted to hear from someone whose posts I have sought out as knowledgeable and well written.

But, this is a large part of what I'm interested in this program for.

It sounds like I'm going to watch a lot of tutorials on t-splines, I've never worked with them at all.

I know that this system is an entirely different way of going about things, but in the past I would import something like this:

https://www.vectorart3d.com/store/?Fuseaction=Detail&ID=57556

And then talk to my monitor for a day while trying to get it to follow the desired contour in a system not set up well for three dimensional objects.

Is there any way to import something like that to fusion360 and apply it to a face?

Thank you again.

[I_Forge_KC]

While entirely possible to model this in Fusion, I have a feeling you'd be far better off in ArtCAM.

ArtCAM is designed specifically for wood working and relief carving.

http://www.artcam.com/standard/index.asp

The question of which software to use would boil down to your goal. If you're a modeller who needs the high accuracy of a TSpline or NURBS model, then Fusion is the winner. If you need to quickly turn out wood projects of this type on a regular basis, ArtCAM is the winner. You may find that a blend between them is the right way to go. 

[Anonymous]

Thank you.

I fall in the second category, and will check out artcam.

[TrippyLighting]

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@Anonymous wrote:

Thank you.

To be honest, "wow" is not what I wanted to hear from someone whose posts I have sought out as knowledgeable and well written.

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Wow does not mean its impossible. Here's a quick doodle:

[Anonymous]

Dang, man.  

That's impressive.

I have only downloaded Artcam and started the 30 day trial and started the first tutorial video when I saw this.

I said "How did he do that so quickly?"

One of the guys here said "Well, he said it was a quick doodle.  Have you tried speeding up your doodling?"

You, sir, present a desired goal for me.

Thank you, and have a good day.

[lichtzeichenanlage]

@TrippyLighting: Sheet metal environment?

[TrippyLighting]

Yep. The base plate is a sheet metal flange and the leaves are small T-Splines open at the bottom  that I simply patched and stitched into a solid, then patterned and combined with the base plate.

[dillon.moulder · Accepted solution]

Hi @Anonymous,

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greggory.schmelzer wrote:

I apologize if this has been covered, but I didn't see it.

I'm new to fusion 360, contemplating a permanent change but still in the first month.

I'm looking to make a series of console corbels with a relief carved across the exposed s-face.

In this case, the relief will be of Acanthus leaves.

I come from Vectric, and really don't have much experience in this application but see immense possibility in its ability to model three dimensionally.  I'd like to get this worked out here, and it is different enough that I don't see much use in importing files from a Vectric program.  Even if there was a use for this, I wouldn't know how (yet).

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You could create this relief using Autodesk ArtCAM Premium 2018, perhaps even Autodesk ArtCAM Standard 2018. In addition, you would have the option of exporting the finished relief as a quadrangle mesh (*.obj) which could then be imported into Fusion 360.

There are members of the Autodesk Community using Autodesk ArtCAM Standard and Fusion 360 in combination, so I recommend that you visit the ArtCAM Forum and engage with them. I recall that @gonzrich is one such person. I’m sure that @Gary.B would be happy to confirm how Autodesk ArtCAM is suited to creating the type of reliefs you’re interested in.

Thanks in advance for your time and cooperation.

Kind regards,

[fathermenas1]

Hello Dillon, I am also a woodcarver, trying to create acanthus leaves for roughing out by CNC.  I was trying to learn to do this in Fusion 360 but found little information about it until I saw this thread.  I tried looking up Artcam as recommended in the thread only to see that it is no longer offered.  Is there another Autodesk product available that is well suited to this kind of design work?  Thank you.

[TrippyLighting]

This thread is 4 years old!

Can you share an image of what you want o designs ?

[g-andresen]

Hi,

take a look at at Vectric Aspire / V-Carve pro

günther

[fathermenas1]

Here's an example.  

Would it be practical/efficient in Fusion 360 for me to work up a "library" of different leaves that I could then draw on and adjust them in each instance where I wanted to use them around a design; I wouldn't want for every change to one leaf to update all the others that began from the same basic leaf.  I just want to be able to not have to redraw the whole leaf from the beginning every time I want to include it in the the design, only the tweak it's shape/layout.  

Also, how would someone efficiently design a string of leaves to go in spiral arrangement around a column?

Thank you for any suggestions. 

[TrippyLighting]

My apologies for not responding earlier.

The image you have posted already has a lot of detailed carvings. You mentioned in your post that you would want to use a CNC machine to rough out the main shape. I am assuming that a lot of the details would then actually be carved by hand?

That could indeed cut down on a lot of the modeling. If you would mock up a photo with the details you would carve it by hand so we might be able to give better advice.

In order to model all the details in the image I personally would not use Fusion 360. But even in other software, developing the skills to model something like that in all its detail is going to take considerable time and dedication.

[fathermenas1]

Thank you for your willingness to offer guidance. I ended up purchasing the
Aspire program and it is helping me a lot. As you noted, it is a learning
process to be able to get a model like that drawn. I appreciate your help.