Can't re-edit a non vertical/horizontal rectangular sketch pattern ?

[Anonymous]

I have been teaching some Fusion 360 classes at the local makerspace and we are grinding our way through all the sketch creation tools lately.  One thing came up last night that we could not solve and I figured I'd toss 'er up here for the big-heads to either confirm or solve.  It appears that if you create a rectangular pattern in sketch, but set the direction initially as something other than horizontal/vertical, it works ok.  However, when returning to edit the pattern (by double or right clicking on the rectangular pattern glyph) you don't get the option of the original direction.

Is there something I am missing here or is that the way things work?

Thanks and once again I will thank the Fusion team for their great decision to open up this software to the tinkerers and makers of the world !

Cheers,

Lewis

[Anonymous]

It's strange, but I have no problem with it. When I edit rectangular pattern it remembers the direction which was set when it was created.

[Anonymous]

Maybe I have a special "troll copy" of F360 - LOL

I'll wait to see what others might suggest here, but the screencast proves I'm not losing it !

[HughesTooling]

I tried it as well and have no problem when I edit the sketch so can you export the F3D file and attach to this thread.

Mark

[Anonymous]

ok - the one I used for the screencast was not saved, but I re created another similar one that acts the same way.  Have attached to this post.

[Anonymous]

It's definitely strange. Because it's reproducible on the pattern you created. But if I create the similar pattern (even in your design and sketch) - it works as intended.

Did you tried to reboot and restart Fusion? Because sometimes it can cure some unpredictable glitches in Fusion.

[Anonymous]

Computer has been rebooted a dozen times between yesterday and today and it still seems to do it.  I'm going to be off line for a bit but will report back later.  Thanks for the help.

[Anonymous]

Hello -

I'm back again.  Machine has been rebooted many times, but the same behavior exists with this. 

Anyone have any more ideas ?

Thanks

Lewis

[Anonymous]

Hello Again -

I think I have isolated what is the problem with this.  I created a direction line from the sketch with an offset from the sketch itself.  If I delete the offset constraint (glyph) and leave the direction line as a parallel constraint, then the re-editing works properly.  Also, if the direction line is chosen from a piece of geometry that was created independently as the sketch to be patterned ( like for example a line just drawn off to the side) then it also works.

Is this a bug ?  Sort of - seeing as the parallel constraint causes no issues, but the offset constraint does.

Any Autodesk employee input on this ?

[Anonymous]

And even with offset it works properly for me. When I tried to reproduce it first time, I applied all constraint exactly as you - and could not get the issue.

As you can see in my screencast I did earlier, I do pattern on your shape and direction line without any changes in constraints, and it can be edited correctly.

[HughesTooling]

I used an offset to create the path line as well and it worked fine. I even tried drawing the path line first then offsetting that line to use as part of the pattern and that worked fine as well. @innovatenate have you got ant ideas?

Mark

[innovatenate]

I think I have the steps to reproduce the issue. The trick is to edit the offset dimension.

Two thoughts here:

1. The direction reference should accurately persist between edits (not change direction between edits - even if you edit an offset)  - I've created report FUS-31372 to track this

2. The direction should be editable when you edit the sketch (there is no option in the dialog when you edit, only on create) - previously reported in FUS-22110

The development team will have a look at these. If any updates become available, I'll circle back and let you know! Thanks for the tag and thank you for bringing this to my attention! There is certainly room for improvement here.

If you have any quesitons, let me know! I am happy to help.

Thanks,

[Anonymous]

Thanks Nathan -

This is not an end of the world thing for me but it does torment.

Look forward to any improvements that can be made to this.

Best Regards,

Lewis

[enepdivad]

I am having a similar problem with sketch patterns.  Thank you Nathan, for clarifying and tracking these issues.  

-I too would very much like the direction of a rectangular sketch pattern to be editable (your 2nd point, associated with FUS-22110) when modifying an existing sketch pattern. 

-Furthermore, I have a sketch who's overall geometry changes in response to a change in user variables.  This change actually changes the direction of the line I selected as the direction for my rectangular sketch pattern.  The trouble is, if I change this parameter (and thus, direction) after the pattern has been created, the patterned sketch entities do not update and instead remain where they were before the change.  I would like to have sketch patterns remain constrained to the sketch entities that set their direction, and thus "follow" those entities, even if their directions change.

Has anybody found a way to accomplish what I'm after?   Are there feature requests associated with these issues?  I searched and could not find them.

Thank you very much,

-David

[rohit.bapat]

Hello All,

I know this is a bit late but, yet I thought you would be interested in some of the latest updates in Sketch 

I am very happy to let you know that Edit Pattern for Sketch now allows the user to change the selections and all other options which were provided during creation. So, basically, you will now get all the options during editing the patterns in the sketch as well!

Thank you all for your inputs. Please give it a try and let me know if you have any questions or concerns.

Thank you,

Best Regards

Rohit Bapat

(PO, Fusion 360)