Can't flange sheet metal part, after splitting it. Alternative workflow?

Can't flange sheet metal part, after splitting it. Alternative workflow?

andreas.scheucherautodesk.hobby
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Can't flange sheet metal part, after splitting it. Alternative workflow?

andreas.scheucherautodesk.hobby
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Hi,

it's my second sheet metal part I am trying to construct and a bit over my head...

 

I have a bit more complex geometry, where I would like to have the projected line go straight over a bent part. Hard to describe, but easy to show:

Screenshot 2023-09-29 at 12.50.01.png

 

To achieve this, I bent the part with two flanges and then split it with a plane and removed the unused part.

 

But when I want to flange the now cut part, I get an error:

Screenshot 2023-09-29 at 12.51.26.png

 

The error message:

Can't complete the sheet metal operation due to an internal error. Checkt the body and bend parameters, then try again.

 

I assume I broke some sheet metal stuff by switching to the solid workspace, splitting and removing the part, switching back and try to flange.

 

What could be an alternative approach to my way to get a straight line when looking at the part from front?

 

Thanks,

Andreas

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SaeedHamza
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Could you please share your file

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TheCADWhisperer
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Trim surface.

Thicken.

Convert to Sheet Metal.

Can you File>Export your *.f3d file to your local drive and then Attach it here to a Reply?

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andreas.scheucherautodesk.hobby
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Hi thanks for chiming in! I have attached the file.

Just to give some more context: It is going to be  a part of a battery holder for a recumbent bike (Flevo GreenMachine), which has a completely unusual built and no standard holders are attachable.

 

The component I am working on is the Holder Left.

 

Please ignore all the components called Archive XYZ. They ended in a dead end and I still need them, as the battery parts are referencing them down the line.

 

And sorry, I don't know how trim surface would help here.
Which surface?
I did a sketch, used the flange command to create the initial thickness of the the part, but you'll see in the attached file...

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andreas.scheucherautodesk.hobby
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@TheCADWhisperer & @SaeedHamza 

I hope this is how tagging works here. 🙂

 

I just saw, my last message was in reply to myself somehow and you most likely didn't get a notification.

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@andreas.scheucherautodesk.hobby 

 

Examine the Attached file - it should give you some ideas.

TheCADWhisperer_0-1695992544197.png

 

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLp5izJt_zvN29W2cEFHAK949eImc9xFOT

 

 

 

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Thanks for sharing the file!

I understand how you built it, but still two questions:
* Never worked with surfaces so far. If I understand correctly, this is just a line extruded by the surface extrude command, right?
* How did you chose the radius of the arcs of the initial line in the first sheet? Will they be corrected to the correct settings by the convert to sheet metal step in the last step?

Thanks,
Andreas
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@andreas.scheucherautodesk.hobby wrote:

* How did you chose the radius of the arcs of the initial line in the first sheet? Will they be corrected to the correct settings by the convert to sheet metal step in the last step?

Oops, I didn’t pay attention to the size of the radii in your original file.

You can edit the radii dimensions in the sketch to whatever you want. 
You could make them a function of the Sheet Metal Styles - Bend.

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@andreas.scheucherautodesk.hobby 

As you redesign your sheet metal part - watch out for interference...

TheCADWhisperer_0-1696074234372.png

 

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Thanks @TheCADWhisperer !

 

It worked great and I could follow along your instructions, but I have one problem still described below

 

But first showing off what I am proud of! 😄

Achieved with your instructions:

 

Screenshot 2023-10-07 at 09.38.18.png

Also the parts created from it are real now!

It's really cool the see ideas turn to reallity:

IMG_4958.jpg

 

But where I am struggling now, is to get a drawing of the bar above the battery lying flat. I want to use it as a 1:1 drilling stencil (mask ?). For the sheet metal parts, this was no problem, as the drawing was created from the flat panel view, but the solid parts are taken over to the drawing in the same orientation as constructed...

 

The selected part, I want to create the drawing from:

Screenshot 2023-10-07 at 09.44.43.png

 

 

The drawing I get, with the part not lying flat on the ground (sorry, reaching the limits of my english here):

Screenshot 2023-10-07 at 09.49.06.png

 

One can see, the projections are rotated and I can't find a way to get an orthogonal view at the part.

Also looked in the documentation, but I guess I missed it somehow.

Do you have a hint for me?

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Select the face you want to use to orient the view.

Then select Look At...

TheCADWhisperer_0-1696678912451.png

 

Now create a Named View...

TheCADWhisperer_1-1696678974800.png

 

You should be able to select this user created Named View in the drawing workspace.

 

Edit: I should note that I didn't actually try this technique in Fusion - but this is how it works in my other CAD softwares so I suspect that Fusion is the same.

 

Edit 2:  OK, so now I did it...

TheCADWhisperer_0-1696679262770.png

 

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andreas.scheucherautodesk.hobby
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@TheCADWhisperer 

 

Came over the last hurdle and can produce the last part now. 

Thanks once again!

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