Best resources to start with

Best resources to start with

justinking30
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Best resources to start with

justinking30
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Hi,

I am a former boilermaker/welder who has recently sat down behind a computer and is taking up the admin side of the business. We manufacture a lot of structural steel items for various clients throughout the telecommunications industry.

I have a basic understanding of fusion and can draw simple components. I haven't yet dipped my toe into trying anything to complicated at this point, but I am keen to give it a shot.

 

We have our own plasma cutter so a lot of the drawings we need to produce are just copying ''For Construction'' drawings that have been supplied by our clients - creating DXFs etc so we can then go and cut the flat plate, for us then to either weld members to the plates or fold and form them.

 

Is there a way to draw a folded plate that has been bent multiple times to form an arc with folded ends to form the collar below?

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Every time I tray to draw this I run into errors because the arcs run into each other.

 

Also is there a database of steel member drawings or DXFs that I can import when trying to draw different designs? I.E RHS/SHS/CHS/PFC members in various sizes? I tried to draw a platform and thought there had to be an easier way, drawing up each different sized steel member became tiresome.

 

I guess I can make my own database of DXF drawings and locally save them and import as necessary? surely this already exists though. 

 

What I am after are some resources that can help with the particular type of work we do, I haven't seen a lot of examples available on the internet or in the self learning section.

 

Any help is appreciated.

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Drewpan
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Hi,

 

If you are working with plate and sheet metal then maybe using the sheet metal tools is what you need. This allows

you to design bodies that can be laid out flat at the click of a button. It is possible to create a shape and convert it

if you have drawn it properly, but maybe creating it within a set of sheet metal rules will work better for you. There

are a number of tutorials about the sheet metal tools in the self paced learning but maybe you want some of the

more in depth learning from AutoDesk University.

 

I am not 100% sure what you are asking for with the different sized steel members but it sounds like what you need

is a combination of the Configurations tools, which are relatively new, and setting up a whole bunch of parameters

to differentiate each configuration. This would allow you to set up several basic shapes and then just input the

parameters to get them the correct size. There may be a bunch of work setting up your configuration table but then

you should just be able to pick items from it as you need them.

 

Everyone's business is different so there probably is not any specific tools for your business, but that being said

there is much overlap with many businesses so there are many tools available to choose from. Sometimes it is just

about finding ones that work for you.

 

Cheers

 

Andrew

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TheCADWhisperer
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@justinking30 wrote:

Is there a way to draw a folded plate that has been bent multiple times to form an arc with folded ends to form the collar below?

 

Every time I tray to draw this I run into errors because the arcs run into each other.


Let's take one problem at a time to get started.

@justinking30 

Can you File>Export your *.f3d file of your attempt to your local drive and then Attach it here to a Reply?

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TrippyLighting
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@justinking30 wrote:

...

 

I guess I can make my own database of DXF drawings and locally save them and import as necessary? surely this already exists though. 

 

...


I would stay miles away from importing DXF files.

Structural steel profiles are trivial to model with the native in Fusion.

Other, more mature CAD software often comes with such libraries for structural steel and all sorts of materials.
Fusion 360 does not. 


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Warmingup1953
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Re Standard .dxfs for sections where are you located? Australia? 

 

https://www.cad-steel.info/steel-sections/universal-columns

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Warmingup1953
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A better screen capture of the Drawing?

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wersy
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Does it look something like this?

 

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jhackney1972
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The site you give is an excellent source of steel sections.  One correction to your post, the downloads are DWG files not DXF files.  You would download them, upload them to the Data Panel and they will convert to a Direct Model automatically. You can them open them, Capture Design History, and from there do as you wish.

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BespokeMetal
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Yes I am in Australia. Thank you I knew something would be out there!

 

I appear to have logged in with my employers login..

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BespokeMetal
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Yes that is it! Thank you I have downloaded that file and will have a look when I get into work!

Appreciate the help.

 

I appear to have logged in with my employers login..

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justinking30
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Unfortunately I don't have a lot of options, My employer has chosen Fusion 360.

 

Are you saying using fusion for drawing steel structures isn't possible or just painful?

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justinking30
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Ok so I have had a look at your model. and I see the way you have done this.

 

Is there anyway to turn the formed plate into a flat pattern the way you have constructed it? I had tried this method of drawing it previously and hit a wall at that point.

 

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justinking30
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This is the error I am referring to:

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Drewpan
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Hi,

 

Well we are advanced enough Down Under to use the ISO Metric System.

 

Cheers

 

Andrew

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davebYYPCU
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Is there anyway to turn the formed plate into a flat pattern the way you have constructed it?

No.  The body is not a Sheetmetal body.

Will flat pattern if you were to Convert it to Sheet metal.

 

Might help….

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BespokeMetal
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Perfect, thank you. I didn't know that was a feature.

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