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Sheet Metal and developement

Sheet Metal and developement

would be much apreciated!

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Aadithya01
Advisor
Hey guys ,

I have been using the sheet metal preview functionality for a while . And I did try some components .One thing that is missing is the individual gapsize control settings when creating multiple flanges is missing .

Have I overseen any settings for that or is it yet to be brought
Anonymous
Not applicable

Hi, I'm trying to use sheetmetal to create a developed surface from a cone ( as part of a funnel). Has any one done this? Or knows how to do it?

mark_ezell
Contributor
Hello, I have been side tracked by other project so I haven't worked in fusion sheet metal for a couple of months. But The last time I did, the only way to create your part was by using flanges or an extruded bend profile, not by revolving, sweeping or lofting. I don't think the immediate plan is to add functionality to flatten developable surfaces created with these methods. This may have changed, but if it hasn't, I don't think you will be able to flatten a segment of a cone.
Anonymous
Not applicable

Hi Team.

 

I have a concern.

I would like to know if any of you know what day we can activate the function of sheet metal and we can make use of it?

 

Do you have an estimated day?

 

Thanks 

promm
Alumni

@Anonymous,

 

Sheet metal will be taken out of preview as a part of the August 8th release.

 

Cheers,

 

Mike Prom

Anonymous
Not applicable

solidworks and creo both has really nice support for sheet metal

TravisJoe
Advocate

To be fair, they are both vastly more expensive products. 

I am a little disappointed that sheetmetal release will be delayed a couple weeks from when it was last expected, but the preview functionality is promising, and even small improvements to that will make it fairly capable on the first official release. It should handle most of peoples needs that would typically use classic sheetmetal functionality.

Anonymous
Not applicable
How is it Travis?


Thanks for getting back to me.

Great that Fusion has Sheetmetal function at last, what's not good is that what it has is very limited.

A great deal of sheetmetal work involves Cones, Cylinders and Transformers.

As I teach students in Mechanical Engineering, the need to create and flatten sheet metal shapes is an every day occurrence. I have been using Solidworks in the past to do these.

Is there a chance that the Fusion Team could work on these in the future?


Looking forward to your feed back on this.


Cheers
TravisJoe
Advocate

@Anonymous


So far I am happy with what hey have provided with the preview. I have even designed some parts and manufactured them for some of my clients, which is a big step forward. I believe when it comes out of preview it will include some updates and features that was not in the preview so it is likely to get even better. 

Well, overall I agree with you. I really want Fusion to be my solution, but I need to realize that at the moment it is a baby compared to the industry standard options like Inventor and Solidworks. The other thing I need to keep in perspective is the dramatically lower entry cost to using the software, and Autodesk never claiming it is ready to fully replace Inventor or Solidworks.

Cones, cylinders and methods like step breaking are typically seen in HVAC and other ducting type of sheetmetal industries. I will fully admit huge industries, but not what I would call the classical machinery oriented sheetmetal. These features took awhile to even get in major software packages as they tend to be more complex than they appear to implement well. I fully understand why for the first release Autodesk chose to focus on the core basics first. 

 

Since sheetmetal is my main needed capability outside the core modeling tools, I am happy I can do a majority of my work with a flexible low cost tool... finally. I also do really hope they work in the HVAC tools in the near future, as it would pair well with the CAM tools for job shops and manufacturers. I also think once they have the first major step implemented, adding new tools will be overall simpler. 

Sorry, just trying to keep your expectations realistic, as I also have to constantly do to myself. I really want Fusion to fully replace any need for other Mechanical 3D design tools. 

Anonymous
Not applicable

Can I download a demo copy of the Preview? We're now deciding which sheet metal CAD system to buy (IronCAD, BricsCAD, Solid Works, etc.). This would be helpful in making our decision.

Anonymous
Not applicable
Don't get solidworks. - Honestly get Pro/Creo. Or wait for fusion.
I use SW at work and it crashes on my daily. Pro/Creo is so much more
developed.
I wouldn't touch IRONCAD either.
x3msnake
Enthusiast
Solid Edge
Anonymous
Not applicable
No solid edge = worse than SolidWorks
TravisJoe
Advocate

Mike @promm said late last week that it is going to be in the August 8th release.

Without knowing your application it is hard to recommend Fusion for sheetmetal needs. That being said I have been doing sheetmetal design for over 10 years, using Solidworks and Autodesk Inventor mainly, and see Fusion doing most of what I would ever need it to do. Since sheetmetal is now working in Fusion it will be my only CAD package.

Solidworks, Solidedge, Creo..... these are all major main stream packages that will have quirks of their own but ultimately will be capable. I have heard good and bad about them all. I would probably shy away from the lesser know packages like IronCAD, which I think just never really fit in well for professionals, even though I have heard of people being happy with them. 

But do not forget that Autodesk has Inventor, which even though is not perfect it is just as capable as all the other packages. I have used it and I was perfectly happy with it. It has a reasonably affordable subscription as well as reasonable purchase price relative to the others. If you ever plan on moving to Fusion it would probably be the simplest transition as well. 

Anonymous
Not applicable
August 8th? I will see it when I believe it. - I thought they where going
to release in June, then July...

Would love to see it.
Anonymous
Not applicable

Hi Everyone. We've been using Corel Draw for 20 years to make electronic enclosure drawings. Recently, our metal shops are demanding a CAD file (STEP, DWG, DXF, etc.) rather than a PDF, so we need to join the 1990's and get a sheet-metal CAD system. I don't think we need anything advanced, just the ability to design a sheet-metal enclosure with all the normal doo-dads (PEM nuts, PEM standoffs, flat-head screw countersinks, thru-holes, flanges, dimples, various types of cutouts, bend requirements, tolerance callouts, metal thickness callout, etc..). The sheet-metal shop must be able to import our file so they can "expand" the drawing to a single flat piece of metal with all the fabrication and bending requirements and tolerances automatically part of the drawing.

 

Will the new Fusion 360 package do this? How can I get an demo copy of the beta version?

 

Tks,

 

TravisJoe
Advocate

@Anonymous

I agree, I started to commit to Fusion 360 after I heard sheetmetal will be making it's way into the software, which is a must for me. That was a year ago and I was hoping to see it implemented 6 months ago. I agree with your skepticism, and we have been given plenty of reasons to feel that way. But! I have finally had my hands on the preview and cannot image a reason that we would not see it out of preview this month, even if the 8th date is missed. 

 

@Anonymous

What you describe is basically the core of the work I do, and what I would say is "typical" sheetmetal work. Fusion even in the Preview state would accomplish most if not all your needs. Plus you could work with your vendor and provide flat patterns directly and or collaborate using Fusion and utilize versioning without emailing files back and forth. It will definitely be more involved than what you are used to, because once you make the leap into 3D CAD there will be a learning curve. But I think at the end of the day you will like having the added capability it gives you. The one thing I would say is probably not ready is stamped features like dimples, louvers, ribs. However it would not be too hard to show center points for those features.

You can download for trial, and I believe if it is for commercial work really small companies have options to apply for free licenses, and otherwise it is $300-$1500 yearly or $40-$190 monthly. 
https://www.autodesk.com/products/fusion-360/overview



keqingsong
Community Manager
Status changed to: Implemented
Anonymous
Not applicable

I up-voted this a while back, good to see that fusion is actually implementing what the users want.

Anonymous
Not applicable

the Sheet metal function is so pathetic I can't believe it. You can not even create a bend on a part, I mean how useless is that!!!!!!!!!

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