How do I reorder parameters?

How do I reorder parameters?

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How do I reorder parameters?

Anonymous
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How do I reorder parameters without deleting them all and reselecting them in order?

 

I would like "dropout_rear" and "dropout_front" at the top of the list and to be able to group the rest in a logical order

 

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Message 2 of 23

jeff_strater
Community Manager
Community Manager

good point, that would be nice to have.  It seems reasonable to be able to drag/drop in this section to get a different order.  I like it.  Not there, yet, though, unfortunately.

 

Jeff

 


Jeff Strater
Engineering Director
Message 3 of 23

brivera2
Explorer
Explorer

Are there any plans to allow manual reordering of parameters and/or sorting by clicking on a column heading?  Please, tell me that's coming!  That wouldn't just improve our efficiency, it would calm down my OCD. lol

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Message 4 of 23

jeff_strater
Community Manager
Community Manager

There is not currently any active project to allow reorder in the parameter dialog.  However, this idea station item:  re-ordering-and-searching-for-user-parameters I think covers this request.  Please feel free to vote up this idea!

 

Jeff

 


Jeff Strater
Engineering Director
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Message 5 of 23

lindsay.fowler
Advocate
Advocate

Excuse me,

But with all the encouragement to model parametrically, it would be nice to be able to re-order the parameters. Bump. 🙂

Message 6 of 23

TrippyLighting
Consultant
Consultant

Yes, reorder and maybe even group into user definable groups.


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Message 7 of 23

lindsay.fowler
Advocate
Advocate

I hear you man. Before I started my design, I thought I had planned of all the user parameters I would need in the order I would need them. I carefully chose nice names that would facilitate sorting if necessary. Unfortunately you cannot even sort them alphabetically. Now I am up to revision 33 and unfortunately my parameter list is now disorganised. You can't delete parameters that are being used - and this is a very good thing - but I can't see any way to neaten up my design. Is my only option is to start the design again from scratch?

 

It is great that parameters can be re-named, and that the names update in formulae and dimensions - bravo. But we need a better system than just to list them in fixed order of creation - that might have been ok as a temporary thing in the first release of Fusion 360, but two years down the track this needs to be improved.

 

Perhaps in the meantime some experts can suggest a workflow for parametric modelling that minimises this problem?

 

 

Message 8 of 23

Scoox
Collaborator
Collaborator

It's really hard to believe how such a sophisticated piece of software disallows sorting not just in the Parameters window but also in various other places, such as the tree, where it blatantly obvious users will need to re-order items to make the project easier to navigate.

Message 9 of 23

lichtzeichenanlage
Advisor
Advisor

Namespaces... I want namespaces 😉 

 


@TrippyLighting wrote:

Yes, reorder and maybe even group into user definable groups.


 

Message 10 of 23

don3M7SF
Observer
Observer

Every design package I've ever used has an option to sort the parameters. In fact 99.999 percent of computer programs have some sort of sorting option.

 

It just makes sense since when you name the parameters you use prefixes to group the same objects variables together so it's easy to find and keeps things tidy and prevents duplicate parameters.

 

To add this option should not be that complicated and will add a massive amount of ease.

 

Currently if you want the parameters in order you have to pre-create them all in another program and when you have them all then create the variables in Fusion. This however is not that easy because new parameters get needed as a project evolves and if you create it at a later stage it is listed at the end by creation date. The creation date of a parameter has no value so not sure why that is the default sorting option.

 

If you're not going to give an option to sort variables at least auto sort it by name.

 

I see users have been asking for the sorting option for more than 5 years. Not sure how long you have to ask before it becomes something that will be looked at. Since it's an option that will add a lot of value without taking forever to code.

 

And it Autodesk ever grace us with a sort option it would be nice if they also look at adding a search option in the parameter window.

 

When you have a project with hundreds of parameters it makes it easy to find a parameter if you can just enter a few letters and do a search.

 

But as we know this will most likely never happen so I'm currently just wasting my time writing this message like the many people before me.

 

I guess these messages gets stored in a table somewhere and nobody ever looks at them.

 

Here's hoping miracles happen and sorting gets added before the apocalypse comes.

Message 11 of 23

MichaelT_123
Advisor
Advisor

Hi Mr Don3M7SF,

Here are some supplementary perspectives on the issue:

https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/fusion-360-design-validate/driven-dimensions-aren-t-referenceable-waa...

 

Regards

MichaelT

 

MichaelT
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Message 12 of 23

Scoox
Collaborator
Collaborator

This is still one of my top FRs

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Message 13 of 23

lichtzeichenanlage
Advisor
Advisor

A dirty workaround is to mess around with favorites, because they're always shown in the order you've clicked them. Sure, this might mean to select and deselect a bunch of parameters but at least you can order things.

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Message 14 of 23

Scoox
Collaborator
Collaborator

Never noticed, that will ease the pain. Still, considering how complex some features of Fusion are, you'd think sorting a list would be among the least technically challenging things for the devs to do.

Message 15 of 23

don3M7SF
Observer
Observer

This is fine when you only have a few parameters but it gets nuts when you have a project with lots of parameters.

I've started creating a MS Word table containing all the parameters I use (SORTED) and then reference this to see what I've created. Especially when a project spans over months it's hard to remember what was created 2 months ago.

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Message 16 of 23

MichaelT_123
Advisor
Advisor

User's Parameters Comments are also at your disposal.

MichaelT
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Message 17 of 23

thebluemuzzy
Observer
Observer

I don't know if this software engineer is still there, but it's nice to have a champion internally for 'quality of life' improvement features in programs. I'm years late to this conversation, but that just goes to show that the request has merit!

Message 18 of 23

tomwalsh73
Explorer
Explorer

I agree, I too was surprised to have found that the Parameters table is not sortable or that the columns can't be resized.  Okay, resizing the column width, and perhaps ordering, would take work on the GUI presentation code. But, the sorting order not being there escapes me, why?

 

Hint, when in making your MySQL or SQLite query, add the sort option to it?!  We don't need fully featured table manipulation, just sort before you present the rows (current_row + window_offset).

 

Do they open source the GUI?  I mean we could probably code the solution and push the code branch back to their repo?

 

Message 19 of 23

Fully_Defined
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Message 20 of 23

TrippyLighting
Consultant
Consultant

Yeah, really. What an insightful blog post 😉


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