I recently finished a project where I had a bunch of pieces nested that needed to have 2D Adaptive Pockets ( and contours ) milled out - In 3D the picture below it would be the pieces making up the horizontal ring structure.
The pockets in question are what allows the 6 pieces per ring to be joined flush so there's nothing around them except for one wall.
As can be seen with the picture above at some point the bit went through the stock material at full pocket depth which if it weren't for MDF being such a forgiving material would certainly have wrecked my Endmill :°
The thing that bothers me the most is that like 95% of the time the operation would raise the bit before continuing to another section but every once in a while ( while nearby? ) it would go straight through the material to reach the next pocket or contour without lifting the Z-Axis.
How can this be prevented?
Other than that the project came out fine...
I recently finished a project where I had a bunch of pieces nested that needed to have 2D Adaptive Pockets ( and contours ) milled out - In 3D the picture below it would be the pieces making up the horizontal ring structure.
The pockets in question are what allows the 6 pieces per ring to be joined flush so there's nothing around them except for one wall.
As can be seen with the picture above at some point the bit went through the stock material at full pocket depth which if it weren't for MDF being such a forgiving material would certainly have wrecked my Endmill :°
The thing that bothers me the most is that like 95% of the time the operation would raise the bit before continuing to another section but every once in a while ( while nearby? ) it would go straight through the material to reach the next pocket or contour without lifting the Z-Axis.
How can this be prevented?
Other than that the project came out fine...
Going to be hard to help without the model, can you share the f3d file? Did the problem show in the simulation in Fusion? Safest bet is use 3d adaptive it's just as quick to set up and is stock aware. 2d ops don't care about stock so if you don't set it all up correctly it'll go through the stock. Could go on with more guesses but I rather see the design and not need to guess.
Mark
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Going to be hard to help without the model, can you share the f3d file? Did the problem show in the simulation in Fusion? Safest bet is use 3d adaptive it's just as quick to set up and is stock aware. 2d ops don't care about stock so if you don't set it all up correctly it'll go through the stock. Could go on with more guesses but I rather see the design and not need to guess.
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Completely (OK, mostly) unrelated to your question.... not a criticism at all just food for thought:
When designing process vessels (large reactors, etc) for vacuum, stiffening rings are almost always installed on the outside. It doesn't take much to keep the cylindrical shape of a thin-wall vessel intact. This is the dust bin below our smaller dust collection - (3) 1/8" rings made out of scrap material (Dibond). They're just a friction fit and have been there for maybe 7 years. Every once in a while one gets knocked off when emptying the bin, but it's easy enough to pop back on. Hot melt glue would also help. This way the bin becomes super easy to empty, because it's smooth on the inside. FWIW... it's a 5HP cyclone unit hung from the ceiling above.
Completely (OK, mostly) unrelated to your question.... not a criticism at all just food for thought:
When designing process vessels (large reactors, etc) for vacuum, stiffening rings are almost always installed on the outside. It doesn't take much to keep the cylindrical shape of a thin-wall vessel intact. This is the dust bin below our smaller dust collection - (3) 1/8" rings made out of scrap material (Dibond). They're just a friction fit and have been there for maybe 7 years. Every once in a while one gets knocked off when emptying the bin, but it's easy enough to pop back on. Hot melt glue would also help. This way the bin becomes super easy to empty, because it's smooth on the inside. FWIW... it's a 5HP cyclone unit hung from the ceiling above.
I don't have that particular setup at hand anymore so sharing it is not an option unless I completely redid it ( wasn't really expecting to need it again )
I have no reason to believe that it wouldn't have also done this in the Simulation - I'm pretty sure I did one ( usually do ) but must have missed it as it didn't spat out a collision error. I guess noticing an error by sound is still more obvious than by vision... Hearing a bit going "Nnjin, nnjin, nnjin, NYYEEOOOWWW!!, nnjin, nnjin, nnjin..." sure raises an eyebrow xD
I don't have that particular setup at hand anymore so sharing it is not an option unless I completely redid it ( wasn't really expecting to need it again )
I have no reason to believe that it wouldn't have also done this in the Simulation - I'm pretty sure I did one ( usually do ) but must have missed it as it didn't spat out a collision error. I guess noticing an error by sound is still more obvious than by vision... Hearing a bit going "Nnjin, nnjin, nnjin, NYYEEOOOWWW!!, nnjin, nnjin, nnjin..." sure raises an eyebrow xD
Took me way too long to realize your Picture was tilted xD
Wasn't aware that mounting them on the outside would have been an option but I'm not really really worried about emptying the barrel at some point - The majority should fall out by overturning it and what's caught between the ribs can be removed by holding it at a 45° angle and giving it a few turns like how a cement mixer does it ( the small stationary ones )
Took me way too long to realize your Picture was tilted xD
Wasn't aware that mounting them on the outside would have been an option but I'm not really really worried about emptying the barrel at some point - The majority should fall out by overturning it and what's caught between the ribs can be removed by holding it at a 45° angle and giving it a few turns like how a cement mixer does it ( the small stationary ones )
I have seen a similar problem with 2d contour and the stay down distance letting the toolpath go straight between profiles. Might want to set your default to zero.
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I have seen a similar problem with 2d contour and the stay down distance letting the toolpath go straight between profiles. Might want to set your default to zero.
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Heck, might want to turn off the Keep Tool Down option altogether, and make sure your Retract Height clears the stock.
Heck, might want to turn off the Keep Tool Down option altogether, and make sure your Retract Height clears the stock.
I'll be having a look at that parameter when doing another project with similar features!
I'll be having a look at that parameter when doing another project with similar features!
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