Hardware requirement

[majush]

I see the list of certified hardware. But will Flame run on any decent hardware with the limitations that come with the hw?? or will it be like I cannot install it unless I have the certified hardware?

thanks

[Grant.Kay]

There will be a hardware checker but it wont prevent you from running the software on uncertified hardware. We just cant guarantee everything will work.

Regards
Grant

[majush]

Thanks. The tool also set to launch for 24th?? Any demo versions to test drive the machine??

And Dual Graphics cards?? Does it work? Any particular constraints on that? Quadros only or GTX Titans on old Macpros is also fine?

[yann.laforest]

Hi,

Here are few answers:

- Yes, this should be available with the release on November 24th.

- No.  No demo, trial or beta version will be released before November 24th.

- Dual GPU support (background reactor) is not available on our Mac applications (including) Flame for now.

- The same rules as Flare and Flame Assist on Mac will apply for Flame on Mac. 

We are not preventing the users to run Flame Assist, Flare and now Flame on any hardware. 

However, there is recommended hardware on which performance and stability are certified; and we only officially support the application running on recommended hardware.

That being said, GTX Titan graphic boards and the old Mac Pro will not be part of the recommended hardware for Flame on Mac.

Please let me know if you have questions,

Regards,

Yann

[majush]

Thanks Yann. So there gonna be a new section of hw requirements to pop up by 24th for Flame on Mac I guess. 

Is there a tool to check hw performance for linux available as of now?

[yann.laforest]

Hi,

The hardware checker tool Grant was referring to will not monitor the HW performance of the workstation. 

The tool will basically tell if the workstation is compliant to the hardware recommendations.

Regarding your second question, yes, the hardware recommendations for Flame on Mac will available by November 24th.

Please let me know if you have any other questions,

Regards,

Yann

[majush]

couldnt someone include a performance comparison to the tool?? like say this machine is only capable of 30% performance when compared to the recommended HP Z840 kinda comparison???

[Anonymous]

Mark Doney had a batch we were all timing back in the smoke 2013 days when he was the first person on earth saying it would run just fine on an iMac... and proved it.

Maybe he still has the setup or lets make something really taxing and use it as a flame benchmark so we can find what's best. I suspect that it will need to be us that makes it as it could be very upsetting to find an imac outperforming a HP with 16x fibre 🙂 Better make it really heavy on GPU so we dont feel bad about buying Quadros.

The reality is that smoke liked faster processors more than it liked more cores. So a well setup overclocked i7 hackintosh killed a xeon based mac pro tower (old style) and the alternative mac universe supported more GPU choices so many went with 680s which smashed the cards apple ships.

If theres one cloud on this announcement its that Apple cant be relied on long term in the workstation space, the new mac pro has been a joke and it sells in such small numbers it cant make any sense for them to keep investing effort. They will sell more apple pens in a day than mac pros in a year. It would be awesome if Apple and HP did a deal for a special edition of OSX for HP workstations. I'd buy that in a heartbeat.

I do like the idea of having a Flap though (flame on laptop).

Mike

[arichards]

Wow, that would be a dream. Why not outsource the MacPro space to HP. It's a sort of "if you don't love me then let me go to somebody who does argument." I'm not bothered about the MacPro being squeezed into the same cubic inches as an iMac, so why invest all that time when someone else can supply the powerful machine. Would love Apple to listen to that...

Cheers

Tony

[Anonymous]

Hi Mike,

I did find the old perfermance test and thought I better test if it works and the performance of the iMac 5K brings this render down to 1min dead. The previous generation was 4:20!

250 frames 8bit HD and 6 samples. Basically put the images in a reel and in cfx, load the setup, connect the BFX/CFX output and it works. 

I would love to hear how fast your flame does it. ;^)

I tried to attach the file, but it's too large. You can find it on this old post, http://forums.autodesk.com/t5/general-discussion/2013-system-performance/td-p/4257243/page/2 

4th message down.  smoke2013_test.zip

[Anonymous]

The better thing for Apple to do is spend some of their income surplus billions and buy HP, and just brand them as the new new mac pro. If we all buy one Apple share each and suggest it to the board it could happen. 

Mike

[brookstomlinson]

I don't care what happens, I just want a better mac option than the trash cans.  and 10bit image display would be good too.

[Anonymous]

http://forums.autodesk.com/t5/general-discussion/2013-system-performance/td-p/4257243/

Something wrong with the original link. For some reason the /page/2 part is throwing it off. Anyway, if you want the benchmark test it is on page2 4th post.

And Brook I did see that el capitan is outputing 10bit from a few applications now for the iMac 5k. So that sounds promising.

[majush]

Thanks for the link Mark. 

33seconds on my *intosh timeline CFX on 2015 with 250 frames.

I wonder if anyone managed to see 10bit for an external monitor from the new iMac. 


I think for the Z840 lineup, we might need something 10 times heavier

[majush]

If Apple buy HP, HP is a dead product. And we might very soon will be forced to work on imacs and not even trashcans.

[Anonymous]

Cool ! A new winner. (33 seconds)

Is that 6 samples? or HWAA? Also is that timed with a stopwatch or what the onscreen window says?

[majush]

Onscreen window. It did countdown decently. I guess i shud use a stopwatch to be accurate.


I didnt change anything from your settings. Left it as it was. Am I suppose to?

[Anonymous]

No. That's correct. The standard setup is 6 samples. So your system sounds pretty good. Maybe share the specs for the others?

[majush]

About Mac screenshot attached. In addition to that, I have an Areca 1882i connected to 8x3tb hdd as framestore. Its 32-33 seconds on stopwatch. 

[Anonymous]

Out if curiosity, how do get a Titan into a late 2013 MacPro which is a trashcan design?

Thanks!

Hans