ITAR Compaitibility

[stephen_cholvat]

Just saw the news that Eagle is no longer going to be developed on and with be unsupported by 2026. ITAR restrictions will not allow files to be stored on the cloud unless those servers are ITAR controlled. Will Fusion 360 Electronics have an ITAR controlled version released soon, or should we start looking to switch away from Autodesk?

[jorge_garcia · Accepted solution]

Hi @stephen_cholvat ,

I'll report this up the chain. We are aware of this ITAR requirement but I don't know of any immediate plans for this. In general, we recommend that users make decisions based on what is available at the time of purchase since future plans can change.

If I get anything more solid I'll report here.

Best Regards,

[engineering]

I have seen that there was an ITAR requirements poll conducted back in 2017.  I know that for myself and others that are coming to Fusion by way of Eagle, we did not all use Fusion that far back.  As Eagle stand-alone is being phased out in a couple more years, this is now a very big deal.  I don't see why AutoDesk does not see an opportunity here, even if the ITAR compliant option requires a marginally more expensive subscription price, it would be worth it. An extra $150 per year or something like that would be absolutely tolerable to have an ITAR compliant option/feature.  I have posted in these forums, repeatedly, that an even simpler solution would be to have a option to make some designs local storage only, and let the user choose between cloud features versus self determined ITAR & security, on a project by project basis.  That seems like the best most obvious improvement to allow ITAR needful users to keep going on this platform.  However, the dev management seem obsessed with "cloud" so at least make ITAR compliant cloud available, at a reasonable additional cost (at same price would be great, but not realistic).

[jorge_garcia]

Hi @engineering,

Thank you for your feedback . I'll keep pushing these up the chain. This is definitely a big item that Autodesk will have to address. I'm not privy to everything that's going on in the background but I'll make sure it gets up the chain.

Thank you also for how you have written you message, I appreciate it.

Let me know if there's anything else I can do for you.

Best Regards,

[engineering]

Regarding "In general, we recommend that users make decisions based on what is available at the time of purchase since future plans can change." : this does not apply to legacy users that have 100's of pre-existing designs that have been done on Eagle. For me, that means starting with Eagle 4 and now Eagle 9.6.2 with about 400 board designs in my portfolio.  Telling me that I can no longer have access to that deep pool of design work, because AutoDesk will not allow stand alone version to continue or give a ITAR compliant cloud option is unbelievable. Now, I can revert back to Eagle 6 but that would not help for any recent designs and I would not have access to any new libraries that I have created or modified since upgrading to later versions. This path of unsecured and misguided cloud nonsense is really going to cost a LOT of users a lot of time, money and headache, while losing a countless customers who will be forced to move to other solutions (not AutoDesk).  Again and again, I am not disparaging some of the nice convenience features that come with cloud. It just needs to be secure & ITAR certified, at least as an option, or somehow maintain option for local only storage, on a project by project basis.

[jorge_garcia]

Hi @engineering,

I'll pass this up the chain. My comment was specifically in regards to purchasing decisions. 

Agree that some solution of ITAR is necessary.

Thank you again for posting.

Let me know if there's anything else I can do for you.

Best Regards,

[lsnc-e1]

Jorge, could you please forward the following proposition up the chain:

I really wish Autodesk would offer long time subscription users perpetual off line license to use the last Eagle version.  As Autodesk has not released any new versions of Eagle for three and a half years anyway, I really don't expect anything there.  But one final version having off line license feature and giving the license for old subscribers would make it so much easier to cope with the future migration to other suitable platforms.

This would also make it easier to revert the current decision, if Autodesk changes their mind.

In the mean time, I continue to answer to emails from Autodesk's sales persons asking about the future of Eagle.

BR

  Antti Louko

[bradXU26R]

It's been almost a year are there any developments on an Itar Compliance?

[jorge_garcia]

Hello @bradXU26R,

The only developments on this front involve regionalization of data (keeping data within a country). We still don't have any news for ITAR compliance.

Let me know if there's anything else I can do for you.

Best Regards,