Modelspace + Paperspace

[larsXBAMW]

I am currently working with a solution, where there are some kitchen cabinets (Dynamic Blocks) in modelspace, but is it somehow possible to add some parameters/actions, that will affect the view, shown in paperspace?
So if I adjust the width, the block will be adjusted accordingly.

I know I can add the Custom Properties, in Drawing Utilities, but these are for the drawin itself, I am looking for the same "link" between the file in modelspace and the one in paperspace/layouts.

I am currently forced to open a second file (based on the cabinet) but with wiev set to show the precise sections and elevations of the parts that the cabinet is made of.

Or is there a way to "lock" the view in a layout, to follow the cabinet that I decide?

This has to work on AutoCad LT, so Lisp is not an option.

[Libbya]

Model space and paper space are not separate files.  They exist within any single file.  Viewports are typically used in paper space to show views of model space. 

[larsXBAMW]

I know, and that is the sollution I have now, but if I move the block (in modelspace), the mviews dont follow the block, and then they are just empty, that is why I was thinking of making a block, in paperspace, that are adjusted accordingly to the adjustsments made to the block in modelspace.

if I have a block in modelspace, named cabinet01_model, that are 600 x 600 mm, and a block named cabinet01_paper, that are scaled 1:20, so it would be 30 x 30 mm.

When I adjust the cabinet01_model to 700 x 600 mm, then I want the cabinet01_paper to be adjusted like the cabinet01_model, so it will end up with 35 x 30 mm.

I hope this makes sense.

[Libbya]

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@larsXBAMW wrote:

I hope this makes sense.

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It doesn't really make sense to me.  It sounds like you are asking if you can automatically have a viewport update its view location to match when objects are moved in model space.  If that's what you are asking, then I do now know of any way to do that and I do not believe it is possible.  If that's not what you are asking, then maybe post some files/images to show more clearly your workflow and what you are trying to accomplish.

[larsXBAMW]

This is a simple setup, just for showing what i mean.

This is a block, in modelspace, and only 1 parameter, named Cabinet01_W, which adjust the width.

Block in model

This block is in paperspace (this is not the same block, but a replica, adjusted to the scale)
This has a parameter named Distance1, which I want to mimic the Cabinet01_W parameter.

I cant set the Distance1 length, to match Cabinet01_W.

Optimal sollutionb, would be to make a mview, to show the cabinet, but somehow lock the views to the block, so when the block is moved, the mviews would follow, but that I cant figure out how to do, therefore the 2 block sollution I am asking about.

[larsXBAMW]

Here I have shown what I Would like to do, but It wont work, and the Lookup should not show.Lookup

[Libbya]

As far as I know it is not possible to 'lock the view to an object' in model space.

It is not possible to 'link' two blocks together so that changes to the parameters of one block force changes in the second block.

The closest way I can come up with to do what I think you are asking is to have the object in model space be an xref and have the view in paper space only be a view of that xref independent of its placement in model space.  In that case, changes to the xref would be reflected in both model space and paper space AND moving the xref in model space would not affect the paper space view of just the xref.

[larsXBAMW]

The Xref option, is actually the idea i was going for, but then I cant use the Dynamic Block option I have for the real block, which have a lot of parameters, including Visibility and Lookup.

I know I am pushing it, but I just want to see if there was something I didnt know before 🙂

[Libbya]

Of course you can use the dynamic block in the xref.  All of the dynamic functions would still work fine in the xref.  Of course you would have to edit/save the xref to change them, though.

[larsXBAMW]

I know, but it isnt userfriendly, the people who has to use this, isnt AutoCad people, but works with sales, and has limited knowledge of Autocad (point and click), and when the case is accepted, the drawings has to go to factory, for the poeple to make the cabinets.

I will however try to see if I can get the Xref sollution to work, so it is simple for the salespeople.

Thanks for the help 🙂

[John_WilliamsSYKJ2]

Pro tip: you can double click the x-ref to edit the x-ref in place.

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