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Past one surface into another with a Top or Bottom correction

Past one surface into another with a Top or Bottom correction

The idea is simple but has a very large applications.

Think you have two channels intersecting you can past both surfaces together with a bottom correction and get a correct complete surface.

Two dikes intersecting, you can past both surfaces together with a Top correction.

You have a area you need to fill to a fix elevation, but the Existing Ground in some places is higher (than the fill elevation). Make a flat surface at that elevation over the interest area and paste it into Existing Ground with a Top correction.

No more "MinimumDistBetweenSurfaces" to insert in drawings 3D polylines to use as hide boundary's.

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FYI, you can use a surface as a hide boundary for another surface without making any additional elements. The hide boundary is dynamic to any changes in the surface.

 

Cheers,

 

Peter Funk

Autodesk, Inc.

Dexterel
Collaborator

I'm still using Civil 3D 2016 and did not find any reference to the fact that you can place a surface as a hide boundary.

I guess it is possible to make a volume surface with only the positive or negative values (cut or fill only) and us it as a hide boundary.

Try I'm looking forward to upgrade to 2017.

Dexterel
Collaborator

I started a post about how to obtain this cut or fill volumes surfaces. I think it shows the necessity for the option to paste surfaces with top or bottom correction.

http://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-civil-3d-forum/create-separate-surfaces-for-cut-and-fill/m-p/6...

troma
Mentor

@Dexterel I'm going to repost your picture from the other thread. I think it illustrates this point perfectly

 

@peterfunkautodesk from this picture you can see that the 'hide' boundary option will not give the desired solution. AFAIK there is no way to obtain a surface from the top only or bottom only of two (or more) overlapping surfaces.

Imagine you are trying to create a surface that matches the top of Surface A and Surface B, leaving out the parts where A is below B and leaving out the part where B is below A.

Create separate surfaces for cut and fill.jpgCreate separate surfaces for cut and fill.jpg

Dexterel
Collaborator

Any of this tools will (at least indirectly) will help a lot and make room for powerful workflows:

(all tools should be dynamical)

- cut one surface by an other surface

- add surface counters as boundary's/brakelines. Counters alones are not so useful. Maybe in surface analyst the possibility to generate new type of boundary's for example between: user counter 0 elevation and negative or positive boundary. The boundary's for the presented two colours:

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- add surface boundary's as boundary's/brakelines

- add surface boundary's/brakelines/objects by layer

 

All this information's exists in Civil 3D its just not possible to accessed dynamically.

 

Dandman01
Participant

I need to do this for 7 surfaces, finding the lowest possible surface from the combined data. This tool would help a lot.

 

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