xref vertical curve labels

[nostupidquestions]

if i have my base drawing scale set at 50 but the viewport in my sheet is set at 20, why don't some of the labels in the xref adjust accordingly? it seems to not be universal as some labels work fine but others get messed up. parcel labels work good but my profile vertical curve label disappears out of the viewport. if i change my base drawing to 20 scale, the vertical curve labels appear correctly. 

[pat.lowe]

Hi, 

My name is Pat and I am with Autodesk Technical Support.  I understand you are having problems with some of the labels in the xref adjusting correctly.  Are some of your labels annotation objects?

[nostupidquestions]

nope. strictly c3d labels. i've attached a picture of each.

[doni49]

Can you post a sample of this?  I've tried to reproduce what you've described and everything seems fine here.

[nostupidquestions]

C5.0 Plan & Profile is the sheet, P-Site & X-Site are the proposed and existing base drawings. changing the scale in the P-Site drawing affects the profile label in the profile view of the sheet 14 of the C5.0 drawing.

[Joe-Bouza]

Sounds like the view port and annotation scale are out of sync. the lower right side of the task bar is a button to sync them

[nostupidquestions]

they are synced in my drawing.

[pat.lowe]

Thanks for that information.  Have you tried changing the overall drawing scale in paper space to match the needed viewport scale?

[nostupidquestions]

that's the problem. invariably the base drawing gets left at 50 scale as most pf my sheets are at 50 scale. however the plan and profile sheets are at 20 scale. the labels should automatically adjust to the 20 scale setting shouldn't they? is there something in the label style that doesn't automatically scale?

[pat.lowe]

Correct.   Here are two ways that will work and one that doesn't:

Works:

1. Create a Data Reference (Short cut) to the alignment and add that to the new drawing. When you do the alignment will pick up the scale of the current drawing. This is the best way to do it

2. Don't label the alignment in the base drawing. In a new drawing create an XREF and then label the alignment through the. This works well for surfaces and for some of the alignment labels.

What Doesn't Work

Xref a drawing with an alignment and have the labels in the xref update

[nostupidquestions]

but it used to work didn't it? i don't recall ever having this issue before.

[doni49]

I've always used method #1. I have one file called Civil.dwg per project. This contains all my civil design work. i.e. my proposed surface(s), any corridor work pipe networks profiles etc. No sheets are ever created in this file.

Then I publish via data shortcuts the finished surface, alignments, profiles, pipe networks etc. I'll have a grading plan that references the surface and pipe networks.

Then I'll have my plan and profile sheets that reference them again but also reference the alignments and profiles. I do the same for drainage plan and profiles (profiles of the pipes).

Because it's all data referenced, changes made in the civil file get pushed out to all the other files AND I don't have to worry that turning something on or off (or drawing something needed for my design purposes) will impact my sheets negatively as they only show whatever comes through the data references.

[pat.lowe]

This has been a known problem for a bit.  The development team has been made aware of it, and hopefully we can get a fix soon.