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I'm always excited about the yearly release of the new main version but man, this year seems particularly lackluster.
This are the release notes.
Here's a video.
The dynamo-stuff is great and I believe that Autodesk is really headed in the right direction with Dynamo but as far as Civil3d is concerned, here are the new features:
- We get the ability to set level of detail for each surface individually.
- We can create corridors from multiple baselines (something that was already added in the late 2024-versions).
- A new graphical interface for "MAPCSASSIGN".
- Performance improvements (they are great of course).
That's it.
There's so litte stuff added, that they had to inflate the "What's new"-section with stuff like this:
- Improved the efficiency when clicking OK to close the dialog box.
- Improved efficiency when switching corridor property dialog box tabs.
I'm really going to enjoy the .35 seconds I'm gaining!
Once again, the public roadmap proofed to be arbitrary (things that were on the "in progress"-tab are still there) and the ideas-section is just a forum to waste time and get some hopes up.
If you compare it to the Revit release notes you can see the difference. New, actual features that might really help the engineer.
I remain underwhelmed.
Thanks for the post/review.
"Once again, the public roadmap proofed to be arbitrary (things that were on the "in progress"-tab are still there) and the ideas-section is just a forum to waste time and get some hopes up."
truer words right there. ^^^
This forum is the only place to publicly state one's real opinion, whether they (adsk) read it or not. At least others who stumble across comments like these know that they are not the only ones who have negative views about this product and it's lack of substantial progress and lack-luster so-called upgrades and all those lingering laundry list of unaddressed bugs that people have been complaining about for years.
Like you wrote, I also eagerly await the new releases, and I'm still gonna test drive it soon and see if I'm whelmed or not.
The days of massive new features are probably over but there are still improvements coming out. w that Autodesk releases the .x updates withing yearly versions, the new release doesn't wait for new features. They were on 2024.3 or 2023.2.
Corridor Transitions are great if you need to model roads with driveways and turnouts. Grading Optimization continues to advance, however glacial that progress might seem. Project Explorer. That's not nothing.
AutoCAD 2025 now has connection to ESRI maps in addition to Bing Maps. They look much nicer, at least the few I compared. I'm not sure if that will be in Civil 3D 2025; I hope so. Anyway, that's an improvement.
I don't think you fully understand the undertaking of upgrading .Net versions, adding a ton of features in the initial release would likely lead to a ton of issues and take much more time performing QA.
"- We can create corridors from multiple baselines (something that was already added in the late 2024-versions)."
This was added to 2024 because of it's addition in 2025, they've done this for several versions where they backtrack and add new features from newer versions.
"I'm really going to enjoy the .35 seconds I'm gaining!"
I think you're just pretty pessimistic in general, I'm not sure why you're complaining about basic QOL updates. The 'efficiency' does not just mean the amount of time it takes to click something either.
"Once again, the public roadmap proofed to be arbitrary (things that were on the "in progress"-tab are still there) and the ideas-section is just a forum to waste time and get some hopes up."
No, it isn't. They have been updating it and simply haven't moved the cards within the roadmap yet. A lot of those cards on there also come from the ideas forum, posting to the ideas forum doesn't immediately mean your idea is viable or applicable to the general population of users either.
"If you compare it to the Revit release notes you can see the difference. New, actual features that might really help the engineer."
This just illustrates that you don't know the fundamental differences between the softwares and environments. Revit is not built on AutoCAD as C3D is. I'm also fairly certain the the civil infrastructure team works on more than just C3D.
Go take a look back at the past 4 years of C3D releases and let me know how many of them have a ton of new features in the XXXX.0 release. (hint: they don't).
As Tcorey said, they do bigger feature releases in the XXXX.1,.2 versions and have been.
@rgrainer wrote:This forum is the only place to publicly state one's real opinion, whether they (adsk) read it or not. At least others who stumble across comments like these know that they are not the only ones who have negative views about this product and it's lack of substantial progress and lack-luster so-called upgrades and all those lingering laundry list of unaddressed bugs that people have been complaining about for years.
This isn't the only place to publicly state your real opinion, not sure where you're getting that from. It's funny to watch you guys complain like this but you don't put any effort into actually reporting these bugs or participate in the background. Upgrading to .Net8 is a bigger upgrade than you understand and allows for product development to progress rather than be stagnant.
Join the Autodesk Feedback Community. Post things there and participate in weekly webinars.
I'm downloading and installing the 2025 offering now......
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As Civil is built on AutoCAD, I'd hope that the ESRI maps will be available although I did download and install vanilla AutoCAD 2025 last week and the images didn't look as good as the Bing imagery
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I just looked and I don't see it as being available. Where do you see it?
Thank you Wendy.
We keep the lab machines up to the latest release version, but the school freezes the machines in August, so we don't get any updates after August. 😞
True but this allows them to be added at the start of the creation process and assign assemblies etc before building the corridor
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You're correct. Autodesk has spent all the tens of millions of dollars they get yearly from C3D on adding things that no one was asking for. Meanwhile, the survey aspect of C3D hasn't had anything new or improved in ~17 years except for the survey query function. No fixes for the dialogs that don't let you even pan/zoom while opened, no improved UI for processing survey data. Still can't make a plain ACAD table/MTEXT object read C3D data even though it's the #1 requested feature that Autodesk claims is implemented when it's not. No improvements to pipe networks. No improvements to pressure networks or fix the useless "pipe run" system that can't even make vertical bends. Did Autodesk fix the Infrastructure Parts Editor to allow custom parts? Did they ever fix the IPE export bug for pressure networks where if the part had a double quote in the name the catalog won't work in C3D?
The top 20 most voted C3D Ideas in https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/civil-3d-ideas/idb-p/31/tab/most-kudoed has only six that are marked Implemented. Out of those, only four have really been Implemented. Two of the "Implemented" ones don't even do what was requested. Many of these are over a decade old and have just been ignored by Autodesk.
It is obvious that Autodesk has placed C3D into a maintenance mode and is no longer working to create features or improvements that users actually want.
Autodesk hasn't even implemented basic functions of C3D to work with ACC/BIM360. No support for pressure or pipe catalogs, the survey database, etc. in ACC.
We have been looking at using Bentley's Open Roads and started some training on it this year. This is coming from someone who has been an Autodesk proponent since the 1990s. That's how bad Autodesk has been working on their civil design software where multiple decade long users are looking at other software.
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So I have been testing 2025 for months. Should you upgrade to 2205? Hmmm if you are on 2020-2023 then yes to you get 2024-2025 new features. If you are on 2024...then no because there just not enough improvements to justify to upgrade but it does not hurt to upgrade. You are not going to experience crashing.
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I don't think you fully understand the undertaking of upgrading .Net versions, adding a ton of features in the initial release would likely lead to a ton of issues and take much more time performing QA
I think you're just pretty pessimistic in general, I'm not sure why you're complaining about basic QOL updates. The 'efficiency' does not just mean the amount of time it takes to click something either.
If I'm pessimistic (which might be true after a long days work), you might be described as overly compliant! 🙂
Don't forget that Civil3d is quite costly - Autodesk isn't your open source small indie developer - so if tangible progress was hindered by a .NET-upgrade and we are now on open roads where everything can be developed faster - I'm all for it. We'll see how it goes.
No, it isn't. They have been updating it and simply haven't moved the cards within the roadmap yet. A lot of those cards on there also come from the ideas forum, posting to the ideas forum doesn't immediately mean your idea is viable or applicable to the general population of users either.
It has now been a week and there havn't been any updates. What's more, the, by far!, most demanded in-progress-feature ("Link Revit Building into Civil 3D Drawing") has of course NOT shipped (and this stuff has been on there for two years now) which will further delay anything in the "Up next" section.
What does it take to get an item on the roadmap? It's not ideas or their votes (as @Cadguru42 demonstrated).
How are roadmap-items prioritized? It's definitely not votes, as you can clearly see.
Autodesk can do whatever they want, but if there's no recognizable link between user interaction and shipped features and the timeline is completely random then the whole process is a huge waste of time, a huge source for disappointment and in the end: arbitrary.
Go take a look back at the past 4 years of C3D releases and let me know how many of them have a ton of new features in the XXXX.0 release. (hint: they don't).
The days of massive new features are probably over but there are still improvements coming out.
Looking at major releases, 2018 comes to mind: "Offset profiles" (as incomplete as they are), "Connected alignments" (they made drafting SO much easier!), "Corridor bow-tie cleanup" (this stuff is really incomplete, but the goal is great!) and there was more - just compare that to the above!
I'd actually welcome a version that doesn't add any features but focuses on fixing existing bugs and aims for completing features that are now only at 70% but what's happening right now in my opinion is an unwillingness to touch core parts of the software.
It's getting more and more like AutoCAD: Build weird, funky stuff in the name of progress while completely losing track of the fundamentals.
I'd suggest that anyone not happy with the development of the software join the Futures Portal and become a Beta Tester. You will get in depth knowledge of what these improvements mean and be able to give feedback directly to the development team.
I think the improvement in the Object Viewer will be very useful. The update to the coordinate system dialog is only the front end to a whole new way of dealing with coordinate systems including vertical datums. Repairing the broken concept of Level of Detail is a good improvement.
As others have mentioned. Autodesk doesn't save up the improvements for the yearly release anymore. They release updates throughout the year. So what you saw in 24.2 or 24.3 can be considered upgrades in 2025.
Civil 3D speed has been increasing over the past three years. Four years ago, that's what everyone was complaining about. That's why it's been a focus recently. There have also been speed increases in AutoCAD.
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