Unlocking Text styles within Band Styles

[ronaldr]

I am in the process of producing a civil 3d template (DWT file) to suit our drawing office standard.

I have now created this template, updated and renamed each and every style within the settings tab.

Now I wish to copy over some profile view band styles that I created from a previous project.

Before I do this though, I want to adjust them slightly so that they are composed in the same way as the bands in my newly created template.

I have opened the project file and located the band styles I wish to copy over. I have opened them for editing, gone to the "Band Details" tab, "Compose Label" button and "General" tab. Under the "Label" heading, is a option to change the text style. I wish to change the text style to the same one I am using for the bands in my template. Unfortunately, it is locked. Does anyone know how to unlock it. Any help would be most appreciated

[ronaldr]

It seems that I'm having the same problem with the "Readability Bias" and "Dragged State, Arrow Head Size". Which I would also like to unlock and change

[FrankHuang]

@ronaldr   I am assuming you are using reference template feature. could you please share more details? dwts will be much better. 

[ronaldr]

I have produced a DWT file from one of the standard dwt files that comes with Civil 3D. I used the Saveas command to create a new template, renamed that file appropriately and renamed/edited all the styles within it to suit our drawing office standard.

Now I am attempting to copy some styles from a previously completed project. In this instance, band styles. Now, before I copy them across to my template (DWT file) I want the entities contained within the band styles in the project file to match the entities contained within the band styles in my template. In this case (for example) the text styles.

My template is fine, I am able to change whatever I want, nothing is locked. 

As the band styles in the project file are only slightly different, I would rather copy them across then reproduce them in my template. However, I don't want a different font, arrow size, etc. other wise my future drawings will be inconsistent. It would be a lot less work to simply change the few entities contained in the band styles of my project file before copying them across. Except, they are LOCKED and I don't know how to unlock them. Very frustrating

[guanleng.sim · Accepted solution]

Hi @ronaldr , Have you check on the "Edit Label Style defaults..." after right click the drawing. Is the "Labels, Leader and Dragged State Components" all are locked? You can try to unlocked it.

In Toolspace > Setting Tab , right click on the main drawing file > "Edit Label Style defaults..."

[ronaldr]

Thank you so much. That worked perfectly.

I wish I had known that little trick when I was producing my template drawing. It would have saved me hours of work

Thanks again.

[ronaldr]

First off, thanks again for your previous solution.

Now, going on from there and still related to setting up profile view band styles. 

When I'm editing/creating band styles, there is a tab called "display". In this tab you are able to set layers, colors, line types, line weights, etc. for each component associated with the band. However, some components are greyed out and you are unable to adjust these entity settings. They appear to be locked. Is there a way to unlock these as well?

And also, it's not just band style display settings I've noticed this on other style settings as well.

[guanleng.sim]

Hi @ronaldr may be this post will answer your queries?

https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/civil-3d-forum/profile-data-band-styles-greyed-out-property-settings/...

[ronaldr]

Thanks for that, this is the very problem I am faced with. I have just now check those posts. Unfortunately, no one has come up with a solution as yet. Which is kind of funny, as so far, I have now seen 3 different files where those layers are different in each one. Cleary, some one, some how has managed to change them. It's a mystery.

[ChicagoLooper]

Forget the Display Tab for a moment. What component in the band are you trying to change? EG, FG, Station, something else? 

[ronaldr]

Hi. Thanks for your reply.

Actually, I am not trying to change any component. But simply the layer and associated properties on which they reside. Furthermore I'm not actually to bothered if I can't change them in the "Display" tab, as I am able to change their layer/properties in the label composer within the "Band Details" tab.

However, for the sake of consistency, if I ever learn how to, I will.

Also, I'm curious. So far I have seen several different drawings files with similar bands. And in each one, those very same components (in the "Display" tab) are residing on different layers. Therefore, it must be possible to change them.

Anyway, here are the components that I would like to change the layers for:

Structure Label

Pipe Label

Labels at Major Stations

Labels at Minor Stations

Labels at Vertical Geometry Points

Labels at Horizontal Geometry Points

Labels at Station Equations

Labels at Incremental Distances

There is also one more component, being "Band Title Box Text". For this particular component I AM able to change it's layer but NOT it's associated properties. 

[ChicagoLooper]

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@ronaldr wrote:

<Actually, I am not trying to change any component. >

Actually, yes, you are......you are trying to change the 'properties' of a component such as EG, FG, Station Value, etc., etc. More specifically, you are trying the change the 'layer' property of that component (whatever component that may be).             

<However, for the sake of consistency, if I ever learn how to, I will.>

Changing the layer that a particular component resides on may cause more harm than good. You should look at changing a label 'style' rather than simply the host layer. This is akin to establishing and using text styles, dimension styles, multi-leader styles, cogo point styles and profile view styles. 

Assuming you still want the change the font associated with major stations, you can do this:

1. Right click on the band text. (see image-1)
2. From shortcut menu, select Edit Band Style. (see image-2)
3. To change Layer, Major Station=>Compose label=>General Tab (see image-3)

Image-1.

Image-2.Image-3.

[ronaldr]

Thanks for that. Unfortunately you have shown me a method that I already knew. And I even said that in my post. "as I am able to change their layer/properties in the label composer within the "Band Details" tab." 

However, this does not update or change the settings in the next tab across. The "Display" tab.

Also, as I have said in an earlier post. I have seen other drawings in which these very same components within a similar band style are actually on different layers in the "Display" tab. Therefore it must be possible to change/update the properties in the "Display" tab. If I ever find out how to do it, I will. Cheers

[heidi.schreiner]

Same issue, new year --> I was having the same problem in my band styles. Couldn't change the color of some text of the band title. Why GREEN?? 

After much hammering on it, I found that not all colors are a problem. If you go into band styles and edit > Band Details > Compose label > Layout tab > and under Text > Contents, crack that baby open. 

I selected the text I wanted to change, clicked the Format tab and changed the color. Here's the thing -- not all of the colors worked! (seriously, I have no idea). If I chose White, By Layer, or By Block, they would all go to GREEN. Other colors worked -- red, green, blue, etc. Finally decided to punt and use color 251 and BOLD for my proposed elevations. 

Hope this helps.