Unlocked Points Not Rotating with Drawing

[Anonymous]

I've rotated jobs several times with no problems. Points, lines, figures and all.

Right now I'm dealing with a situation where I brought a 2002 CAD drawing into Civil 2016, I imported the points for the job, and everything lines up.

All my points are unlocked, but when I try to rotate the points along with the rest of the drawing, only the drawing gets rotated and the points stay were they are.

I've tried locking the points and unlocking them again, and I've tried rotating the drawing and the points separately, but no matter what I do, the points wont shift.

Anyone have any insight as to why this is happening?

[Anonymous]

When I try to move a single point I see this in the command line

1 of the monitored system variables has changed from the preferred value. Use SYSVARMONITOR command to view changes.
**** No System Variable Changed ****

[rl_jackson · Accepted solution]

Did you import the points into the drawing using a survey database, if so you have to translate them using the database, then move you drawing to your data as required.

Now if you used a survey database you can also go back to the database and unlock the points there, then you'll be able to do what you want to do in the drawing.

[Anonymous]

Thanks a lot man. That clears things up a bit.

I was able to rotate points before because I'd make a copy of all the points and drawings off to the side, leaving the original points rotated to what they shot in the field just in case.

I guess I have to unlock in the database if I'm actually trying to rotate the original set of points.

[rl_jackson]

You can rotate in the database but it a translate instead (right-click the database name), which allows you to adjust coordinates, rotation and datum (vertical) of all data at one time. The nice thing about doing the database method, is that the points stay locked and the database and the drawing match. That means there is no chance that you or anyone else can inadvertently move or shift the data. Personally I prefer this method over the unlock and move method as the database is not on the same system as the drawing by unlocking the points.

Now, in your particular case you need to have old line work match your new location so you would need something to rotate the existing linework to the new coordinates by doing the translate of the database.