Transmitting Files

Transmitting Files

jmartt
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Transmitting Files

jmartt
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I would like to arrive at a consensus.

I believe that if I'm sending someone outside my office a project, and I want them to see and have access to everything, I do the following:

 

Promote all data shortcuts (optional, see below)

eTransmit by right-clicking on the project in sheet set manager

Within etransmit options, make sure that xrefs are bound and that the include options are checked. (Including fonts, which I think aren't checked ootb.)

Copy the _Shortcuts folder onto the disk or whatever I'm using alongside the etransmit .zip file. (Not done if shortcuts were promoted, above)

 

I think, regardless of the folder structure option selected in etransmit options, the above steps allow for complete transfer of all data and easy use of the drawings by the outside entity. And because a .dst file is created, they have a roadmap to navigate the drawings.

 

The "finer points" I don't know:

Does setting all xrefs to "relative path" negate the need to bind them when etransmiting?

If I have a survey database, does this come along with etransmit? I'm pretty sure the points within drawings would...but if they were imported into the drawings read only, would they be seen and/or editable by the recipient?

 

Is there any good reference for proper transmittal protocol? The C3D Best Practices has like half a sentence about etransmiting. I'd like to, (instead of copy/pasting some instructional text that I have reserved for this), direct senders of unacceptable project files to a website or something that details how they might go about transmiting to me files that I don't have to spend all day piecing back together.

 

Thanks.

 

 

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jmartt
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Anyone?.....Anyone?....Bueller?

 

How about this: If I etransmit from the SSM, include everything I want like fonts and materials, etc., and send along a copy of the "_Shortcuts" file with the .zip of the etransmit, am I successfully sending 100% of the project?

 

Thanks.

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LeafRiders
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Few things on the go here:

 

Does setting all xrefs to "relative path" negate the need to bind them when etransmiting?

Relative path is the best setting and should help when transferring files, we use this as our default.

 

If I have a survey database, does this come along with etransmit?

I don't believe it does.

 

Is there any good reference for proper transmittal protocol?

Not from Autodesk, this is something that varies by project complexity and company protocol. Some design information never leaves the house with some tasks (I've never seen a land development project get shipped to the client afterwards, might become more common, but not locally). It's more common to not send clients Civil 3D design files than you think, there is just so much going on now days. Focus on the clear outputs and deliverables and get away from dumping "everything" across the line, especially if they don't have a certified Civil 3D person to work with it.

 

My Preference: The idea behind promoting everything into one file before sending makes ZERO sense. It's basically an old school way of thinking if you ask me. The reason for Xrefs, Datashortcuts, and survey databases is to try and get alot of that information in separate areas to avoid 1 file becoming bloated and unable to work efficiently. It's like saying here take this file it's a combination of many production based files, setting, and workflows, but I felt it was best to mash them all together and toss it your way... In fact, it may not work properly and you'll likely spend all day opening the file and getting things to work, but here you go. (Just kidding, but you get my point). Etransmit In my eyes helps package everything up but doesn't handle datashortcuts and survey databases really well.

 

... Furthermore the goal should be to send a zipped folder of everything you have to the client. If they need to relink datashortcuts, survey databases, and xref file paths, they should have knowledge on how to do that properly. If there is a need to spoon feed them, I would suggest you keep the file folder structure and all pertaining files in 1 folder main root folder, with related subfolders. Then you'll be very well prepared to package up everything you need. This can be easier said than done, but project workflows and ensuring all related files are in all included within the main "Design" folder would be a great start. If this is the case, you should be able to take all of it to your C drive after the main ZIP is created and go off line from the network. Repath to C drive location and everything should work as intended. - You may want to package those files that are all reset to C:\Design file paths and essentially instruct the client to save to C:\ to avoid repathing all information. There's lots of moving parts on this one, alot has to do with how skilled your client is with Civil 3D. I hope this helps.

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jmartt
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Leafriders, I appreciate the reply. While I do design stuff, I've always etransmited (without promoting data shortcuts; I'm glad someone else thinks that's a silly notion), and sent along the "_Shortcuts" folder. I've never had any problems with recipients not getting or working with the info, but I don't think they use 100% of the data.

 

It's actually the projects that I receive from others that I'm having problems with. I wish there was some literature I could direct senders to that would explain to them how to deliver to me a complete project. They're trying to send me all the info, it just comes without Xrefs and DSs being found and without SSM .dsts and all in one folder or in several folders that don't make sense and missing fonts and on and on.  Even if I do get all info, I'm spending hours rebuilding a project on my drive so I can use it for construction surveying.

 

You know, better than literature, I wish there was a big red button that sent all info when you pressed it. It takes maybe too much know-how to send C3D projects so that they're friendly for recipients to work with. I wonder if some of these policies about not sending out CAD from offices might have more to do with lack of understanding of the software than with liability. 

 

If anyone has seen a good written protocol for transmiting C3D projects available on the interwebs, please let me know.

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