Subassembly composer. Parameter passing

Subassembly composer. Parameter passing

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Subassembly composer. Parameter passing

Anonymous
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Hello.
How it is possible to make that at change of properties slope 2 automatically changed slope 1?
I need to make sure that when changing the properties of the construction in slope 2, the value is passed to slope 1 and it is the same.
Through the outgoing parameter, this can not be done, since it is impossible to transfer the slope value to the previous design.

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CivilFlow
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Hello-

Check your assembly properties/construction tab. If slope 2 subassembly is first in build order and slope 1 is after that, you should be able to use the parameters reference technique to control the slope 1 based on what happens at slope 2.

I hope this helps.




Michael M. Carlson
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Anonymous
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The fact is that Slope 2 is the second, in assembly order.

And I can not pass the slope parameter back.

It is necessary that the value of slope 2 is automatically passed to slope 1.

 

Unfortunately, passing parameters from one element to another works only in one direction, and I do not know how to get around this. 

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CivilFlow
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Yess I understand.  No way around that limitation.  There are ideas asking for this functionality :

 

https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/civil-3d-ideas/sac-data-from-the-next-station/idi-p/7870730

 




Michael M. Carlson
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AutoCAD Civil 3D Infrastructure Design Professional
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Anonymous
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Thanks!

I'm understand.

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KMercier_C3D
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Can you more further describe how your assembly is working? (Specifically the blue links after slope 2)

 

Can you post a screenshot of your current Assembly Properties Construction Tab?

 

I have an idea but I want to make sure I understand how your blue links are being defined. 



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Anonymous
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I have them in Russian.
Sense of this.
There are 2 parts on the screen.
The first is the roadside with its construction.
The second part is the escarpment of the road.
The roadside edge should be equal to the slope of the roadbed.

 

 

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KMercier_C3D
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Unrelated to your question but I think there might be an error hidden in your Road slope pkt file with how the slope transitions when the swale is detected. Take a look at when the swale elevation is set to -2 and the surface elevation is set to various values above and below that value. The swale bottom is showing up before there is a surface to daylight to, also you will want there to be a smooth transition with the Slope 2 otherwise your corridor will have weird bumps. 

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Related to your question, I think the only way you will be able to give slope 2 to slope 1 would be to include the top surface of the road (along with those targets and applicable input parameters) as auxiliary points and auxiliary links in your road slope pkt file and to attach that subassembly to your assembly in Civil 3D first and then to add your road as a second subassembly that can then reference the slope 2 as a parameter reference. 



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AU2019 Speaker::: CES321590: Analyze and Revise Existing Subassembly Composer PKT Files for AutoCAD Civil 3D
AU2017 Speaker::: CI125544: Analyze and Devise in Subassembly Composer
AU2012 Speaker::: CI3001: Reverse Engineering with Subassembly Composer for AutoCAD Civil 3D
AU2011 Speaker::: CI4252: Create Subassemblies That Think Outside the Box With Subassembly Composer for AutoCAD® Civil 3D®

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Anonymous
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Thanks for the help, I'll try to do this

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Anonymous
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The fact is that the design of the curb changes dynamically. Therefore, my slope and roadside in this case will not always coincide. Since the slope is the first and the roadside is the second.

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KMercier_C3D
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What about making your roadway pkt file only up to my purple line with a vertical edge to your subbase materials and then making your shoulder pkt file carry over with input parameters and using the Use Parameter Reference the depths of the subbase materials so that slope 1 and slope 2 are in the same pkt file?

 

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AU2019 Speaker::: CES321590: Analyze and Revise Existing Subassembly Composer PKT Files for AutoCAD Civil 3D
AU2017 Speaker::: CI125544: Analyze and Devise in Subassembly Composer
AU2012 Speaker::: CI3001: Reverse Engineering with Subassembly Composer for AutoCAD Civil 3D
AU2011 Speaker::: CI4252: Create Subassemblies That Think Outside the Box With Subassembly Composer for AutoCAD® Civil 3D®

Message 12 of 14

Anonymous
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...))) The idea is not bad. The main thing is not to forget this volume when counting!
And so, it should work.
I think there are no other options here.

Thx!

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KMercier_C3D
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If you are consistent with your codes you should not have any issue with the volume quantities, it would be no different than having the left half of the road and the right half of the road. 



Kati Mercier, P.E. | LinkedIn | AutoCAD Civil 3D Certified Professional
Pronouns: She/Her
Co-author of "Mastering AutoCAD Civil 3D 2013"
AU2019 Speaker::: CES321590: Analyze and Revise Existing Subassembly Composer PKT Files for AutoCAD Civil 3D
AU2017 Speaker::: CI125544: Analyze and Devise in Subassembly Composer
AU2012 Speaker::: CI3001: Reverse Engineering with Subassembly Composer for AutoCAD Civil 3D
AU2011 Speaker::: CI4252: Create Subassemblies That Think Outside the Box With Subassembly Composer for AutoCAD® Civil 3D®

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Anonymous
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Yes, correctly set the codes and should work.

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