SSA: How to determine maximum WSEL/Freeboard of an inlet?

SSA: How to determine maximum WSEL/Freeboard of an inlet?

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SSA: How to determine maximum WSEL/Freeboard of an inlet?

qchalmersKACEH
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I have a completed SSA model with gutter flow bypass links. The jurisdiction would like an output from the model (excel/PDF) which shows the maximum water surface elevations and/or minimum freeboard of all catch basins during the design storm. I am modeling most of my catch basins as inlets because they receive surface flow. In the Custom Report options I do not see an option to export maximum water surface elevation or minimum freeboard. These options are available for junctions (nodes):

 

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But not for inlets:

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I can export the  "Total Flooded Volume" and "Total Time Flooded" for inlets but this does not tell the jurisdiction what the maximum water surface level or freeboard is, only if the inlet overtopped or not.

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matt_anderson_pe
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The application doesn't report freeboard for inlets.  I am not sure even the newer EPASWMM inlets report that.

Matthew Anderson, PE

Inundar, LLC
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qchalmersKACEH
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SSA calculates the inlet water surface elevation. I can literally see it as a time series plot output, here is an example:

Temp.pngThe minimum freeboard is just the inlet rim elevation minus the catch basin WSEL shown above. There just doesn't appear to be any way to export this data for every inlet (catch basin) for the entire network at once. It's like Autodesk forgot to program it.

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matt_anderson_pe
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Remember - they bought it this way.

Matthew Anderson, PE

Inundar, LLC
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qchalmersKACEH
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Who owned SSA originally? My understanding is that Autodesk is abandoning it's development so maybe they should sell it back...

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matt_anderson_pe
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Back then, it was Chris Maeder's firm, BOSS International. Chris is now CivilGeo, and they have a GeoStorm.

There are lots of SWMM5 based applications...

Matthew Anderson, PE

Inundar, LLC
https://wettingthewhetstone.substack.com
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qchalmersKACEH
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Ah I know Chris, CivilGeo did a presentation to our engineering team to see if we may be interested in purchasing GeoStorm. Unfortunately it does not support SBUH which my firm uses for most of our designs in Eastern Washington.

 

If you have recommendations for programs which have the same capabilities as SSA (including the ability to export pipe networks from C3D to create your model) please provide them. We would be happy to move to something better if I can justify it to management.

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