Pipes & Structures aren't connect in data shortcut

Pipes & Structures aren't connect in data shortcut

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Pipes & Structures aren't connect in data shortcut

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I have created a pipe network and everything is working fine the master drawing, however now my data shortcut doesn't have 2 pipes connected to a structure.  I have tried removing everything from the master file except the pipe network, ran a audit session, and even swapped the parts.  Nothing seems to fix the issue.  This plan set is 2 years in the making so redoing the data shortcut to see if that fixes everything is out of the question, because we don't have the time to complete redo our plan set.  Does anyone have any ideas except to manually note the connected pipes to the structure?

 

Kris

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redtransitconsultants
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Without seeing the files, it sounds to me that the pipes are not connected to the structure in the master file which would likely cause the issue in the data shortcut as well. Go into the master file and click on the pipes, then right click and say 'connect to part', then select the structure. Then save and open the drawing with the data shortcut. That should resolve the issue.

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Anonymous
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Thanks for the tip, however that was the first thing I checked.

 

I have been able to fix the issue however now.  I removed everything from the master file except any files required to make the pipe network function properly (surface and alignment).  I then ran an audit twice and closed the program completely down.  This seems to have fixed the issue, but I really hate having to remove all my survey information, and xref files.  It will make modifications to the pipe network more complicated since I don't have any reference information to work with.  I will have to add those files back in later if they become necessary and see if the pipe network starts acting up again.

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Anonymous
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I'm having the same issue here but what's odd is it seems to be specific to the file it's being referenced into. Our network creates backups of our drawings so when we restored an older version, the pipes connected. So something in the newer drawing changed that caused all the pipes to disconnect. I don't want to make any changes to the drawing that the network is created in because it's working properly in other drawings. Anyone else run into anything like this?

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Anonymous
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When this happens I normally remove all xref's and all non essential data shortcuts in the master file (you need to keep the alignment files and surfaces references otherwise the pipe network has nothing to reference). Then I run an audit on the master file. This should correct your issue in the file that you are referencing your information into. If this doesn't work and you have multiple pipe networks in your master file you will want to save multiple copies of the master file and limit each drawing to only contain 1 pipe network. You will then just have to data shortcut each new drawing into your final drawing. CAD seems to sometime struggle when too much information is in the master file and a data shortcut is used to bring the information into another drawing. Hopefully this helps.

Regards,

Kris Lyons, CPESC
CET, Public Works - Engineering Division
City of Oshkosh
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Anonymous
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Thanks for the suggestion. It's not my file so I'm not going to mess with it but I will pass along the suggestion. I did go into the master drawing and saw they have 6 networks and too many XREFs to count. I'm guessing this file is corrupt and causing others to be corrupt throughout the project as well. This isn't the first time they've come to me with issues in this project.

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M_c3d
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I came across this issue on a couple of jobs, to fix this I audited the original drainage file, fixing the errors and this fixed the problem

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Anonymous
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Thanks for the suggestion. I tried and as I suspected, it didn't fix the issue. I've chalked it up as a corruption in the file the network is referenced into and not the original design file. They were able to proceed with the restored version at any rate. 

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Goody1977
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Autodesk needs to get their **** together, I am about ready to dump C3D all together. 

We are spending way to many hours on these files to just have the files go corrupt.

This is supposed to make our lives easier, not chaining us to our desks. 

This garbage always happens right before a deadline, and I am fed up. 

The price they are charging per seat this should be seamless by now. 

Thanks for nothing AutoDesk, I am considering changing to a new profession over this Junky Software

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Sinoj.Ravindran
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hi,

There are several issues we too facing with this*** software.. no replies from Autodesk or just they cant fix it..

Taking big money for software..thats all.. 

 

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Anonymous
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After reading this, all I did was run "audit" in the source file and synchronize in the sheet file and it fixed the issue. 

I didn't need to unload any xrefs or delete any shortcuts. 

 

It's the first time I've seen audit do something noticeable outside of speeding up files. 

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garrett_tsouprakeG33PK
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Not sure how to fix the issue but I have found that if you data reference in a pipe network while current layer is locked, the pipes and structures will not be connected. Super frustrating

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