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How do I construct the table row and the staggered ticks as below?

soonhui
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How do I construct the table row and the staggered ticks as below?

soonhui
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Here's the drawing.

 

alltablerow.jpg

 

So how do I construct the table row  ( such as "Elevation", "Offset") for my section view ( as shown above)?

 

And how do I construct the staggered ticks that have the levels attached also?

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teerawat.pSCHYQ
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Hi @soonhui  that table is Data Band, you need to have a look on the section view property, when you understand this data band then you can do staggered label on each data band, it similar what I reply in that you asking about break labeling would like to show on the bottom.

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soonhui
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Thanks @teerawat.pSCHYQ , I manage to figure out how to configure the table row label like how to change the string for "Elevation" ( ie: I change it to 长度 in Chinese if I want to), as shown below:

 

elevation data ban.jpg

 

But I don't know how to ensure that it is really reading the numerical value of the Elevation and labelling at that specific offset, which depends on the EG surface ( eg: 64.615m). 

 

I do find something like Valid property fields for use with AeccBandLabelStyle text components, but unsure how to apply it ( or whether it's relevant) because I don't see that my drawing uses any of these. 

 

 

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teerawat.pSCHYQ
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the numbering value is depend what properties that you select in the content such as section 1 elevation, offset, section 1 elevation minus section 2 elevation ....etc...  after you select correct properties then you need to make sure that you press the arrow button into your content

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soonhui
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@teerawat.pSCHYQ , exactly where do I select in (what) content? The screenshot below doesn't seem to suggest that I can select any of them, be it section 1 elevation, offset, section 1 elevation...

 

elevation data ban.jpg

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andrewpuller3811
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For the staggered lines, you need to set the stagger height to 0 on the Bands tab of the Section view properties.

 

To set the Offset and Elevation labels to pick up the correct levels, in Bands tab of the Section view properties, you need to set the section 1 source to the section you want the all the labels to be spaced from. The section 2 column is used to set a section to sample other data from.

Currently you have the top 2 bands set with section 1 set to the existing surface and the bottom 2 bands set with section 1 to the road as built. You should set section 1 source to the same - either the as built section or the existing surface section - This will set labels at the same location for all bands at grade breaks from the section 1 data source. 

 

Section 2 should be set to the other section.

 

Then you need to set up the band styles to get the values from the section source they match with.

 

E.G. if you set section 1 to an existing surface section then the band style needs to be set up to source the label from Section 1. The Design/As Built band would then be set up to source the label from Section 2, which would be set to your road as built section.

 

If you look at the section view properties for the lowest section bands are set up like this.

 

You should also set the weeding in the Bands tab of the Section view properties all to the same value, otherwise you will get some bands with more labels than others. The value should also match the weeding in the section labels dialogue, or you get more(or less) labels coming down from the section than you get labels in the section bands.

 

 

 



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teerawat.pSCHYQ
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Hi @soonhui, you need to get more detail for data band for section view, it similar data band for profile view.

basically, the data band have two component that for i would say Title and Detail like this, you can see in data band type properties.

teerawatpSCHYQ_0-1736389591164.png

and about content is for you set what output you would like to show on the data band, such as in this above sample, 

"CHAINAGE (m)" is a content for data band title .......

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soonhui
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@andrewpuller3811 , @teerawat.pSCHYQ ,

 

But exactly where I can setup Section 1 Source in the Band Tab as per below?

 

section 1 where.jpg

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andrewpuller3811
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Assuming you got the image from your own computer - look on the image, you will see the Section 1 column - click on the item on the third row of the table under the Section 1 column heading - you will get a drop down that allows you to select the section to set. Do the same for the section 2 items.

 

To set the Section Data Band Styles to pick data from the correct column, you need to edit the Section Data Band Style.

You can do this by clicking the little icon in the right side of the Style column next tot he Section Data Band Style you want to edit.

So for your third line, being the design elevations, I would click the icon in the data band style row,

Click the data band style drop down and change that to "As Built Elevation Major Minor Grade Breaks"

Then click the edit style button on the right of the data band style drop down.

Click on the Band Details Tab

Click on the Major Increment item in the At: list

Click the Compose label... button

In the Label Style Composer, click on the Layout tab

Click the drop down under the Component Name: label

Select the Elev Major component.

Look in the Property list and find the Text - Contents item

Click on the Value item next to the Contents property

Click the button with the 3 dots (called and ellipsis)

In the Text Component editor, Select all the text in the window on the right

In the left side -

 - choose Section2 Elevation from the Properties: Dropdown

 - Click on the value next to precision and change it to 0.001 (for 3 decimal places)

 - Click the Arrow button to the right of the Properties: Dropdown (this will set the label contents to get the value from section 2 as set in the Section View Properties)

Click the OK button in the Text Component editor

Click the OK Button in the Label Style Composer

Repeat the above 13 or so instructions for Minor Increment, Centreline, Sample Line Vertices and Grade Breaks.

 

Then click the OK button on the Section Data Band Style dialogue

Click the OK button on the Pick Band Style Dialogue

Click the OK button on the Section View Properties dialogue.

 

 

 



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Civil 3d 2023
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soonhui
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@andrewpuller3811 ,

 

Sorry you lost me right there at Label Style Composer

 

layout style composer.jpg

 

 

You said:

 

Click the drop down under the Component Name: label

Select the Elev Major component.

 

But where can I find the Label ( all I see is only Text), and what is Elev Major component? It's not visible in the above screenshot. 

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teerawat.pSCHYQ
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Hi @soonhui , you can have a look this snap short.

1. my sample file have  4 Data Bands for this section ( see in red mark)

2. I setup to showing Label and tick at only Grade Breaks (see pink mark)

3. I have select Section 1 to  control location of each Labels and ticks at the Grade Breaks

teerawatpSCHYQ_0-1736403285885.png

4. see if i change Section 1 to another source on this Data band only, then you see it showing location of labels and ticks difference before like this 

teerawatpSCHYQ_1-1736403430572.png

hope you will understand how to control Section 1 and Section 2 source for each data band

soonhui
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@teerawat.pSCHYQ , if you don't mind, can you attach your sample drawing file for me to study?

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teerawat.pSCHYQ
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Hi @soonhui sorry, I can't share any civil 3D file to you as those file belong to my company even my sample file that I used for internal training to my team, Look into my video recording that I also can't share full version video to outside.

 

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soonhui
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@teerawat.pSCHYQ , why I'm asking for your file is because on my side, it seems that what determine the table row value is only Section 1 Source, and Section 2 Source doesn't matter at all. I've no idea why. 

 

So why do we have Section 2 Source column if it doesn't matter at all?

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andrewpuller3811
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In the component I was looking at from your drawing, it had the text component named  Elev Major.

 

It can be named anything - In your screen shot above, the component is named Text.

 

You only need to click in the text box next to Contents and then click the ellipsis button to get to the Text Component Editor.

 

In the attached drawing, I have modified the section view bands to pick up the section 1 for the proposed/as built elevations and section 2 for the existing elevations.

 

 



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Andrew Puller
Maitland, NSW, Australia
Windows 11
Intel core i7 11800 @ 2.30 GHz with 32GB Ram
Civil 3d 2023