Getting a 36x24 sheet to an 11x17 to scale without multiple layouts...

[Anonymous]

Hello fellow Cad users,

I usually use the forum for a last resort and try to figure it out on my own but I have an issue that I can't find online where there was a clear answer.  I have a project manager/ PE that was a microstation, and I have 5 Months of civil 3d 2014 use under my belt, I know alot of the basics and can work my way around.  Here is the issue... He likes to have full size 24x36 drawings to mark up and use them for his viewing (to scale) but we want to send out 11x17 drawings to scale.  I have not found a quick way to do this.  I thought you had to make a separate layout tab and have an 11x17 and re-scale it and all but he thought there was a way to have the same 24x36 but just made into an 11x17.... is this possible?  There are profiles involved so I'd prob have to have two drawings so the scale in  the profile would be correct too.  Please help!

Thanks in advance!

-Jon

autocad Civil 3d 2014

[Anonymous]

Ok new issue. I have set everything up for 22x34. when im done with my drawing i plot to (dwg to pdf.pc3) everything looks great when i open it in adobe. When i got to plot a full size on our plotter is cuts some off unless is print to fit at 94% which throws off the scale. Same thing happens if i print to 11x17. I reduce the scale by 50% and it cuts off some of my drawing and says must be 48% to fit on the paper. If i print direct from civil everything seems to look fine... an adobe pdf issue or what??

[dgorsman · Accepted solution]

Drawings typically have two borders: a drawing border (thick line denoting the outside of the drawing area) and a trim border (thin line or hash marks denoting the edge of the paper).  When you plot a margin is added, as it is assumed that you only have the drawing border and the margin is used to pad out the drawing to the paper size.  If you have both a trim border and the PDF driver is adding a margin (which is the default) then that margin is being added outside the trim border, effectively making the drawing oversized and needing to be shrunk to fit on the indicated paper size.

Short version: either don't use a trim border and use the margin setting in the driver, or use a trim border and set the margins to 0.

[mr.anthony.priest]

First things first,

you need to understand how numbers work in order to properly develop the methodologies needed to make this happen.  this is an antiquated methodology that the romans used to build.  proportions, relationships are all relative.  use autocad as a tool that highlight your talents.  Are you talented?  

than kyou for reading

Tony

[Neilw_05]

I have always disliked trim borders. The reason being you can't control the margins with a trim border when plotting to different sheet sizes. For example we have plot setups for full sized 24x36 and reduced 11x17. We can adjust the margins parametrically in the page setups and will reduce the margins on the smaller sheets. Trim borders just get in the way.

[Anonymous]

Start with a 22x34 sheet and there is no question. Why the ANSI D size sheet is not commonplace is beyond comprehension.