Flared End Section

[rwatson654]

These questions have probably been answered but I could not find the solutions in search.

I’m attempting to setup a flared end section style using Autodesk’s Flared End blocks for plan and profile (from the Civil 3d Imperial.dwt file).  When I cut a profile the downstream end always shows the FES 180 degrees off, even though the plan view is correct.  What am I missing to resolve this so the downstream and upstream FES are shown correctly in profile?

I assume that C3D users edited the default part and added additional widths and lengths in part builder for various FES sizes.

Attached are screenshots of my current setup.

All suggestions welcomed and apricated.

C3D 2016 SP3

ACAD SP1

Win 10

[rwatson654]

Did not get any responses back so I figured I was not clear in what I was asking.  Attached is the profile view of the downstream, and the upstream flared end sections.  I was thinking of making another block of to use for the downstream side, just rotated 180.  Are there other solutions to this and using the same FES profile block?

Thanks

[wfberry]

Surely you can rotate it in plan view to get the profile to look correct.

Bill

[sirjoelsph · Accepted solution]

If you're using a block to show your structure in plan or profile view, you are going to get a perfect representation of that block shown.  Blocks do not look at part data to see how they should be drawn - blocks are blocks.  If that is the way you would like to do it, then you would need another style with a second block drawn 180 degrees for the other profile view.  Blocks can be rotated manually in plan view, but no such control exists to intelligently 'mirror' that block in profile view.

If you want it to do it in a more automatic fashion, you need to use 'Use outer part boundary' in plan view or 'display as boundary' in profile view.  This will actually look at the part that you've defined and draw it accordingly in plan and/or profile view.  This approach needs you to use very well defined parts in your parts list, and I've never had very good luck with flared end section parts.

Hope that helps, good luck.

[rwatson654]

Thanks for the replies. I was afraid that would be the answer.  I will mess around with the parts library and see what I can work out.  If all else fails I will use two blocks and hopefully get the results we need.

[Matt.Anderson]

There is a flaw in Civil 3D Profile View of Pipe Networks.  Profile view of a part in profile is ALWAYS the FRONT view of a part.  This works only with the assumption that items are always viewed that way.   Flared End Sections, or End Walls or Rectangular parts that are not symmetrical will always fail to be represented properly in profile view.

Most people use a profile view override to flip the structure.