Connecting pipe to different Pipe Network structure

[millermccoy]

Using Network Layout Tools, can you attach a pipe to a structure in a different Pipe Network?

[millermccoy]

Using Network Layout Tools, can you attach a pipe to a structure in a different Pipe Network?

[ccoles · Accepted solution]

Short answer, no, you can't. Pipes and structures on separate networks do not interact. One work-around I've done is to use shortcuts to import my pre-construction drainage layout into a new drawing, promote it, then change the network name to reflect the post-construction drainage layout and build my drainage changes into that model. I have pre-determined styles to separate existing pipes and structures from proposed pipes and structures. This moethod has worked well for me on several projects, some that include extensive existing drainage layouts.

[ccoles · Accepted solution]

Short answer, no, you can't. Pipes and structures on separate networks do not interact. One work-around I've done is to use shortcuts to import my pre-construction drainage layout into a new drawing, promote it, then change the network name to reflect the post-construction drainage layout and build my drainage changes into that model. I have pre-determined styles to separate existing pipes and structures from proposed pipes and structures. This moethod has worked well for me on several projects, some that include extensive existing drainage layouts.

[wfberry]

You can merge the networks then connect, however.

Bill

[wfberry]

You can merge the networks then connect, however.

Bill

[millermccoy]

thanks...I'll control the different pipe runs thru styles

[millermccoy]

thanks...I'll control the different pipe runs thru styles

[Anonymous]

What if one pipe netork is associated with one roadway alignment and the other another alignment?

[Anonymous]

What if one pipe netork is associated with one roadway alignment and the other another alignment?

[Joe-Bouza]

different parts can refer to different alignments

[Joe-Bouza]

different parts can refer to different alignments

[Anonymous]

By and large, pipes runs that connect to other pipe runs should be in the same network. For example, all the storm pipes draining to a common outlet should be in the same network. You can have each pipe run associated with it's own alignment, as Joe pointed out, but there are advantages to having them in the same network. 

[Anonymous]

By and large, pipes runs that connect to other pipe runs should be in the same network. For example, all the storm pipes draining to a common outlet should be in the same network. You can have each pipe run associated with it's own alignment, as Joe pointed out, but there are advantages to having them in the same network. 

[ODO18]

I disagree with this statement.  We have had similar issues in our company and I have had to try to standardize this.  Once a pipe network is proposed and it is part of an approved plan set, then those networks are existing in any future plans.  So Grading, utility networks, etc should all be set anew.  Proposed grading in approved plans should be pasted to existing surfaces and shown as existing in new plans.  Proposed pipes in approved plans should be shown as existing and should NOT connect with any future networks.  If they do connect then you run the risk of a prior approved plan having a new invert or worse a invert change show up in those approved plans outputs.  This causes a problem for as-builts that need unmodified utilties and grading, as well as a quality control issue of some showing a proposed manhole or something in to seperate plans, so the client gets billed twice.  The safe answer with utilities is to create a new netwrok, then if you need to connect to an previous proposed structure, add that structure in the new network as an existing structure.  The use of data sharing can also help with keeping future projects seperate.

[ODO18]

I disagree with this statement.  We have had similar issues in our company and I have had to try to standardize this.  Once a pipe network is proposed and it is part of an approved plan set, then those networks are existing in any future plans.  So Grading, utility networks, etc should all be set anew.  Proposed grading in approved plans should be pasted to existing surfaces and shown as existing in new plans.  Proposed pipes in approved plans should be shown as existing and should NOT connect with any future networks.  If they do connect then you run the risk of a prior approved plan having a new invert or worse a invert change show up in those approved plans outputs.  This causes a problem for as-builts that need unmodified utilties and grading, as well as a quality control issue of some showing a proposed manhole or something in to seperate plans, so the client gets billed twice.  The safe answer with utilities is to create a new netwrok, then if you need to connect to an previous proposed structure, add that structure in the new network as an existing structure.  The use of data sharing can also help with keeping future projects seperate.