Clip Bing Map

Clip Bing Map

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Clip Bing Map

mikeshick
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Can I clip a Bing Map when brought in through geolocation into CIVIL 3D?

Mike Shick
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LucasHicks
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Same ribbon, use capture area.

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mikeshick
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Ah...thanks.  Why is the resolution worse, even after making it very fine?

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Jeew-m
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This would be useful to get better images.



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rl_jackson
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It's worse cuz its FREE, @Jeew-m method works well, but if you have access to a local site to download georefrencened SID/JPEG images that can be loaded, and in some cases even FDO'd, depending on your location will always be the sure KittyKat. Where I'm at its updated every year, that's not everywhere unfortunately.


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I see you have the issue commonly faced by other users. Sorry, but Bing Map is the Dollar General  version of an aerial image, not the Macy's version many users expect. Unfortunaely Bing will limit your ability to acquire better and higher resolution. The bestest and mostest you can do with Bing is to select your captured image=>Go to Properties Palette=>choose 'Very fine' from the dropdown menu. See image below.

 

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If you still don't like the result, you can get an App. Go to Featured Apps Tab=>Connect to App Store Icon=>Then, in the Search Apps section enter IMAGERY. Prices and trial versions will be shown.

 

For no out-of-pocket expense, you may also perform a SAVE AS from Google Earth Pro (don't confuse this with Google Maps that you access through your browser, GE Pro is a stand alone program) but these no cost images will not be georeferenced so you'll need to scale and rotate the image manually after you've inserted it and that's labor on your end compared to Bing and third party programs which will do the scale and rotate stuff for you..

 

If you want GE Pro to be georef'd and scaled and rotated automatically, then you'll need to purchase a subscription to Plex Earth (or something comparable) which provides you with a Google Earth Pro Toolset (a completely separate ribbon tab) to insert images. (Plex Earth has a channel on you know what so you can watch a video to check them out.)

 

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Pointdump
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Mike,
Another thing to consider is view height. You've probably noticed that the image changes when you zoom in and out. Sometimes the resolution gets better or worse with just a small change in zoom.
As @Anonymous says, local government aerials in MrSID can be exquisitely sharp. Local governments are always updating their aerials to catch building permit scofflaws.
Another avenue is the free Terra Incognita. Allows you to grab a high-rez photo at zoom levels down to 5 Meters.
Dave

 

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mikeshick
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Rick, would you mind elaborating on your better map solutions.  I'm not that familiar yet.

 

Thanks for your comments, all.

Mike Shick
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rl_jackson
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Dude, your in CA there is a load of data, images (maybe not the latest and greatest) but of exceptional quality and be obtained from NGS via Earth Explore as one source. Most likely your county will have a fee based ability to obtain Orthos that are also DEM, having topo data. Heck @Pointdump or @MMcCall402 may have better options there like your neighbors.


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mikeshick
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I've tried downloading from NGS.  This is the datasheet.  Not sure what else I can do to get the image of the survey.

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rl_jackson
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Try something like this

 

https://earthexplorer.usgs.gov/

 

There are others, but this one covers a massive amount of data, over a extensive time frame.


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mikeshick
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Thanks, Rick.  Do you have any pointers in using FDO?

Can I import Google Earth through ArcGIS?

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rl_jackson
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In general FDO works if you don't need to clip a view in PS, last I checked. Here in FL we can download the prior year ortho, from FDOT so the image at most is 1.5/2 years behind. FDO works well otherwise.


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mikeshick
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Rick, are you saying that you cannot view the map in paper space?

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ChicagoLooper
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You can use Google Earth Pro and perform SAVE IMAGE. Once you have the image saved, you can use ATTACH command and add the GE Pro image as an external reference. To put the image in the correct geospatial location, you will need to insert 2 geomarkers. The geomarkers will serve as reference points to scale, rotate and move the image to its proper position. Be sure to assign a coordinate system to your drawing before attaching the image; e.g. State Plane, UTM Zone, etc. This video demonstrates how it can be done. Click >>HERE<< to watch the video.

 

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To watch video, click >>HERE<<.

 

Notes:

  1. This procedure doesn't require you to purchase a program. This procedure requires you to manually move, scale and rotate the image. If you wish to have the image inserted automatically, you'll need to purchase or subsribe to a third party program.
  2. Don't confuse Google Earth Pro with Google Maps. The former is a stand alone program whereas the latter is an interactive map you open in your browser.
  3. You don't need to purchase Google Earth Pro. The program is free to download.
  4. You must assign an appropriate coordinate system to modelspace. If you don't you won't be able to insert your image accurately.
  5. The geomarkers are accurately placed in modelspace by entering their Lat/Longs on the command line. 
  6. When you select a geomarker, its x,y coordinates (Position-X and Position-Y) and its Lat/Long coordinates (Location section) are both displayed in the properties palette.
  7. Use the variable LATLONGFORMAT to toggle the Lat/Long format from decimal degrees to Deg-Min-Sec in the Properties Palette.
  8. When you perform SAVE IMAGE in GE Pro, save an image large enough to cover your viewport. If it's too small, your VP will reveal the edge(s) of the image.  

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rl_jackson
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No sir,

 

When using FDO, at least in the past, when you did a VP clip the FDO didn't honor the clip. I've personally found in most cases with Map3D that its better having native files. Just some things are wonky.


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mikeshick
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Thank you so much.  This was a wonderful demonstration.

 

Thank you.

Mike Shick
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