Civil 3D as AutoCAD

[rkmcswain]

So running this gives you what appears to be plain AutoCAD.

But a simple drawing started with "no template" still includes Civil objects (proxies when opened in true vanilla AutoCAD) - so what is the point?

If you want a true clean DWG file and you only have Civil 3D installed, I guess you still have to Export to DWG?

TIA.

[Joe-Bouza]

I know it’s not the point but having the OE would eliminate the proxy warning , yes?

[rkmcswain]

I suppose @Joe-Bouza

I guess I should have been more clear with the goal. Given an installation of Civil 3D, can you create clean DWG files with no AEC content? Looks like the answer is NO.

We can't control if other have the OE, plus there is just no sense in including this garbage when it's not needed.

Thanks.

[M_c3d]

Whilst it might seem like vanilla autocad, it has some of the functionality of civil 3d, such as if you delete a corridor target, it will re build the corridor in 'civil 3d as autocad 20xx'. It won't do this in vanilla autocad with OE installed.

[M_c3d]

Out of interest why are you running autocad as civil 3d?

If you are on IDSP or AEC you should have vanilla autocad as a stand alone.

There is no harm in using the civil 3d templates on 2d drawings (other than a host of styles etc).

[dgorsman]

Hmmm... does it *actually* start with no template, or does it call a default DWT?  Maybe try selectively replacing a few DWT files in the install folder and see what happens?  Otherwise my first suspect would be demand-loading of the OE (it gets installed with the program).  Find the DBX entry in the registry and kill it by changing the loader flag value (restore it after testing, of course).  I've had to do that with a third-party OE which did something similar.

[rkmcswain]

When I do this, I expect it to not load a template file.

[rkmcswain]

mmcgovern wrote:

Out of interest why are you running autocad as civil 3d? (You mean Civil 3D as AutoCAD)

If you are on IDSP or AEC you should have vanilla autocad as a stand alone.

There is no harm in using the civil 3d templates on 2d drawings (other than a host of styles etc).

• Because I want to create a clean DWG file with no AEC embedded garbage.
• No suites or collections here.
• See point 1.

Thanks.

[M_c3d]

Yea sorry i meant to say that the other way round!

Its a difficult one to manage, if someone opens it in the wrong one, i.e. civil 3d, its automatically going to add its wonderful complexity of settings in.

That's why I just instruct the users to use the civil 3d templates for all drafting.

[CharlieGreene7827]

I am now using 2018 I have noticed that when I export to DWG 2010 people useing autocad can’t open, so I have to export to 2007, I didn’t find that with 2017,