Labels / styles

[jggerth]

As a reply to Peter's message in the other C3D discussion, herewith is a screenshot with labels and styles I need. cross section format is derived from FDOT and converted from another CAD package they use. Labeling is for B/L construction (alignment), arbitrary places where sections crosses a vegetation line, wetland line, easement, Right Of Way (NOT DEFINED AS A PARCEL!!), and horizontal surfaces that may fall out of the surface, but not out of the plan design, e.g. Mean High tide (MHT) or Seasonal High Water (SHW).

and don't forget arbitrary labeling of slopes of grades

[Anonymous]

1. Labeling of where sections cross wetland lines easements ROW ETC:

A. Make a series of alignments that define these. For the wetland
boundaries, the alignments don't have to have contiguous segments.

B. Use a "Link Offset On Surface" Generic subassembly.

1. Give it a unique point code so that you can make a point and
point label style for it.

2. When adding the sub assembly, use some arbitrary offset like 50'
to move it away from the main part of the assembly

3. Omit the link - no line will be drawn to the point

4. In the corridor, set the target surface for the link to be EG

5. In the corridor, set the target offset to be one of those new
alignments.

2. Horizontal surfaces:

A. offset your alignment to around where you want the surface to fall in
cross section. Offset that new polyline the width you want that surface to
be

B. Make a new surface "Mean High Tide" with some style that doesn't show
up in plan view.

C. Add those two polylines to the surface as breaklines

D. Add that new surface to the sample line group that makes your cross
sections. You should now see the surface generated for you.



Cheers,



Peter Funk

Autodesk, Inc.

[jggerth]

Horizontal marker lines..

building an extra surface will work, although the extents of the horizontal line in the cross section ought to be more flexible, e.g. stretch it in the section view as required instead of going back to the plan and modifying the surface. it's a marker line, primarily for permitting, a graphical requirement that the agencies want, not a model element. (heck, the far side of the Mean High Tide Line is somewhere on the coast of Spain!)

Vertical marker lines.

That is an excessively complex series of steps, convoluted, cumbersome, and kludgy for something that _ought_ _to_ _be_ straightforward and basic!! Maybe this belongs in the wish-list, but arbitrary vertical markers based on horizontal locations in the plan are always required in my cross sections. And, since they are marker lines, the ability to stretch vertically w/o changing the horizontal location in the section view is important. I can see creating an alignment for the easement, phase lines, wetlands, jurisdictional boundaries, etc. but seriously -- kludging a workaround with assemblies, profiles, etc is not worth the effort. C3D does some useful stuff, but jumping though counter-intuitive hoops to do something as basic as a vertical is why it's sitting on the back burner.

LDT let users attach the Left & Right ROW alignment and displayed them as vertical marker lines, I'm essentially asking for that back, plus the ability to add an arbitrary number of additional vertical marker lines.

[Anonymous]

You're right, cross sectional drafting needs to be enhanced. But I was
trying to provide you with steps that you could use today to get your work
done in Civil 3D. I'm sorry that my suggestions didn't meet your standards.

Also don't forget that you have every command in AutoCAD available to use.
For the high water mark, you could draw and label the high water line on a
cross section and then array it to all the other cross sections in a couple
of seconds.

Peter Funk
Autodesk, Inc.