Getting PI Points Coordinates of an Alignment

[ekoneo]

Hi,

I try to get PI point coordinates list of an alignment. Although I get PI point station, I cant get PI points coordinates.

A part of my sample is here:

switch (sampleAlignment.EntityType)
{
  case AlignmentEntityType.Arc:
       AlignmentArc sampleArc = sampleAlignment as AlignmentArc;
       ed.WriteMessage("\n" + "PI Point Station: " + sampleArc.PIStation +"\n");

 Is there any way to get PI point coordinates of an alignment?

Thanks.

[ekoneo]

Hi,

I try to get PI point coordinates list of an alignment. Although I get PI point station, I cant get PI points coordinates.

A part of my sample is here:

switch (sampleAlignment.EntityType)
{
  case AlignmentEntityType.Arc:
       AlignmentArc sampleArc = sampleAlignment as AlignmentArc;
       ed.WriteMessage("\n" + "PI Point Station: " + sampleArc.PIStation +"\n");

 Is there any way to get PI point coordinates of an alignment?

Thanks.

[BlackBox_]

Try iterating the vertices of a temporary GetPolyline()

[BlackBox_]

Try iterating the vertices of a temporary GetPolyline()

[ekoneo]

Thank you for your reply. GetPolyline() converts splines to breaklines. So polyline includes many vertex points. I need only polylines. 

[ekoneo]

Thank you for your reply. GetPolyline() converts splines to breaklines. So polyline includes many vertex points. I need only polylines. 

[kovacsv1]

I know this is a bit messy, but maybe you can add labels and get the values from there with the AlignmentIndexedPILabel Class?

[kovacsv1]

I know this is a bit messy, but maybe you can add labels and get the values from there with the AlignmentIndexedPILabel Class?

[ekoneo]

Good idea. First add PI lables then get label informations lastly delete labels. Thank you for this trick 😊

[ekoneo]

Good idea. First add PI lables then get label informations lastly delete labels. Thank you for this trick 😊

[ekoneo]

If i can get copy of an alignment, after deleting all entities (not lines) it is possible work with GetPolyline method. However i couldnt get copy of alignment. When i try to delete entities the original alignment's entities become errased. I need to leanr that the way of preparing an undependent copy of an alignment.

[ekoneo]

If i can get copy of an alignment, after deleting all entities (not lines) it is possible work with GetPolyline method. However i couldnt get copy of alignment. When i try to delete entities the original alignment's entities become errased. I need to leanr that the way of preparing an undependent copy of an alignment.

[BlackBox_]

Just backing up for a sec; why does iterating Alignment.Entities & testing for AlignmentEntityType.Line (if not others as desired), and simply storing (as example) AlignmentLine.PassThroughPoint1 & AlignmentLine.PassThroughPoint2 to Point2dCollection (if !Contains) not work? 

[BlackBox_]

Just backing up for a sec; why does iterating Alignment.Entities & testing for AlignmentEntityType.Line (if not others as desired), and simply storing (as example) AlignmentLine.PassThroughPoint1 & AlignmentLine.PassThroughPoint2 to Point2dCollection (if !Contains) not work? 

[Jeff_M]

Just calculate the PIPoint of the AlignmentArc entity:

                foreach(AlignmentEntity e in align.Entities)
                {
                    if (e.EntityType == AlignmentEntityType.Arc)
                    {
                        var a = e as AlignmentArc;
                        var chordMid = new Point2d((a.StartPoint.X + a.EndPoint.X)/ 2.0, (a.StartPoint.Y + a.EndPoint.Y)/ 2.0);
                        var ang = a.CenterPoint.GetVectorTo(chordMid);
                        var pi = Autodesk.Civil.Utility.PolarPoint(a.CenterPoint.To3D().ToArray(), ang.Angle, a.Radius + a.MidOrdinate);
                    }
                }

[Jeff_M]

Just calculate the PIPoint of the AlignmentArc entity:

                foreach(AlignmentEntity e in align.Entities)
                {
                    if (e.EntityType == AlignmentEntityType.Arc)
                    {
                        var a = e as AlignmentArc;
                        var chordMid = new Point2d((a.StartPoint.X + a.EndPoint.X)/ 2.0, (a.StartPoint.Y + a.EndPoint.Y)/ 2.0);
                        var ang = a.CenterPoint.GetVectorTo(chordMid);
                        var pi = Autodesk.Civil.Utility.PolarPoint(a.CenterPoint.To3D().ToArray(), ang.Angle, a.Radius + a.MidOrdinate);
                    }
                }

[ekoneo]

Thank you for reply. I ll try on tomorrow. I wish it works. Thanks for your interest 😊

[ekoneo]

Thank you for reply. I ll try on tomorrow. I wish it works. Thanks for your interest 😊

[ekoneo]

Thank you so much Jeff_M.. You helped me many times. This code calculating PI points coordinates. If SCS, SS or CS etc exist in an alignment, various PI points coordinates calculation formulas are requared. If there isn't another way I try your method. I try to list selected alignment's subentities in a dataGridView. Also I wanted to put PI points coordinates in the data gridview. However I couldnt achieve this yet. Thank you so much for your help. Also I wanna ask you one more thing please. Is there any way to get an independent copy of an alignment? Independent, because I ll delete all entities of ones. Other copy ll be used. Sory for my bad English. Tank you so much.

[ekoneo]

Thank you so much Jeff_M.. You helped me many times. This code calculating PI points coordinates. If SCS, SS or CS etc exist in an alignment, various PI points coordinates calculation formulas are requared. If there isn't another way I try your method. I try to list selected alignment's subentities in a dataGridView. Also I wanted to put PI points coordinates in the data gridview. However I couldnt achieve this yet. Thank you so much for your help. Also I wanna ask you one more thing please. Is there any way to get an independent copy of an alignment? Independent, because I ll delete all entities of ones. Other copy ll be used. Sory for my bad English. Tank you so much.

[Jeff_M]

@ekoneo All the other entity types with arcs/spirals include the PIPoint or SPIPoint property in the SubEntity objects.

[Jeff_M]

@ekoneo All the other entity types with arcs/spirals include the PIPoint or SPIPoint property in the SubEntity objects.

[ekoneo]

Thank you for reply Jeff_M. I try that code with a simple alignment including SCS type entity (SpiralCurveSpiral). The alignment tangent extensions are visible. I get PI point's coordinate with "entitiySCS.Arc.PIPoint" . I compare them with tangent extension points's coordinate. Unfotunatelly they are different. Because entitiySCS.Arc.PIPoint providing only arc's own PI point (In the blue circle on photo). I try to define difference on atached photo. I need PI point of total of SCS entitiy (In the red circle on photo). Thank you Jeff_M.

[ekoneo]

Thank you for reply Jeff_M. I try that code with a simple alignment including SCS type entity (SpiralCurveSpiral). The alignment tangent extensions are visible. I get PI point's coordinate with "entitiySCS.Arc.PIPoint" . I compare them with tangent extension points's coordinate. Unfotunatelly they are different. Because entitiySCS.Arc.PIPoint providing only arc's own PI point (In the blue circle on photo). I try to define difference on atached photo. I need PI point of total of SCS entitiy (In the red circle on photo). Thank you Jeff_M.

[Jeff_M]

Ah, okay, understood. Back to the drawing board...

[Jeff_M]

Ah, okay, understood. Back to the drawing board...

[hippe013 · Accepted solution]

@Jeff_M Couldn't you just compute the overall PI by intersecting the incoming and outgoing lines? In my tinkering I found that I shouldn't iterate through the AlignmentEntityCollection but rather use the GetEntityByOrder function.

 Dim index As Integer = 0
                For Each ent As AlignmentEntity In align.Entities
                    ed.WriteMessage(vbCrLf & "Index: " & index.ToString & " Entity Type: " + ent.EntityType.ToString)
                    If ent.SubEntityCount > 1 Then
                        For i As Integer = 1 To ent.SubEntityCount
                            Dim subEnt As AlignmentSubEntity = ent(i - 1)
                            ed.WriteMessage(vbCrLf & "Index: " & index.ToString & "." & i.ToString & " Sub Entity Type: " & subEnt.SubEntityType.ToString)
                        Next
                    End If

                    index += 1
                Next

'Index: 0 Entity Type: Line
'Index: 1 Entity Type: Line
'Index: 2 Entity Type: SpiralCurveSpiral
'Index: 2.1 Sub Entity Type: Spiral
'Index: 2.2 Sub Entity Type: Arc
'Index: 2.3 Sub Entity Type: Spiral

The above entities are out of order.

For order As Integer = 0 To align.Entities.Count - 1
                    Dim ent As AlignmentEntity = align.Entities.GetEntityByOrder(order)
                    ed.WriteMessage(vbCrLf & "Index: " & order.ToString & " Entity Type: " + ent.EntityType.ToString)

                    If ent.SubEntityCount > 1 Then
                        For i As Integer = 1 To ent.SubEntityCount
                            Dim subEnt As AlignmentSubEntity = ent(i - 1)
                            ed.WriteMessage(vbCrLf & "Index: " & order.ToString & "." & i.ToString & " Sub Entity Type: " & subEnt.SubEntityType.ToString)
                        Next
                    End If
                Next

These Entities are in order.

'Index: 0 Entity Type: Line
'Index: 1 Entity Type: SpiralCurveSpiral
'Index: 1.1 Sub Entity Type: Spiral
'Index: 1.2 Sub Entity Type: Arc
'Index: 1.3 Sub Entity Type: Spiral
'Index: 2 Entity Type: Line

[hippe013 · Accepted solution]

@Jeff_M Couldn't you just compute the overall PI by intersecting the incoming and outgoing lines? In my tinkering I found that I shouldn't iterate through the AlignmentEntityCollection but rather use the GetEntityByOrder function.

 Dim index As Integer = 0
                For Each ent As AlignmentEntity In align.Entities
                    ed.WriteMessage(vbCrLf & "Index: " & index.ToString & " Entity Type: " + ent.EntityType.ToString)
                    If ent.SubEntityCount > 1 Then
                        For i As Integer = 1 To ent.SubEntityCount
                            Dim subEnt As AlignmentSubEntity = ent(i - 1)
                            ed.WriteMessage(vbCrLf & "Index: " & index.ToString & "." & i.ToString & " Sub Entity Type: " & subEnt.SubEntityType.ToString)
                        Next
                    End If

                    index += 1
                Next

'Index: 0 Entity Type: Line
'Index: 1 Entity Type: Line
'Index: 2 Entity Type: SpiralCurveSpiral
'Index: 2.1 Sub Entity Type: Spiral
'Index: 2.2 Sub Entity Type: Arc
'Index: 2.3 Sub Entity Type: Spiral

The above entities are out of order.

For order As Integer = 0 To align.Entities.Count - 1
                    Dim ent As AlignmentEntity = align.Entities.GetEntityByOrder(order)
                    ed.WriteMessage(vbCrLf & "Index: " & order.ToString & " Entity Type: " + ent.EntityType.ToString)

                    If ent.SubEntityCount > 1 Then
                        For i As Integer = 1 To ent.SubEntityCount
                            Dim subEnt As AlignmentSubEntity = ent(i - 1)
                            ed.WriteMessage(vbCrLf & "Index: " & order.ToString & "." & i.ToString & " Sub Entity Type: " & subEnt.SubEntityType.ToString)
                        Next
                    End If
                Next

These Entities are in order.

'Index: 0 Entity Type: Line
'Index: 1 Entity Type: SpiralCurveSpiral
'Index: 1.1 Sub Entity Type: Spiral
'Index: 1.2 Sub Entity Type: Arc
'Index: 1.3 Sub Entity Type: Spiral
'Index: 2 Entity Type: Line

[ekoneo]

Thank you for your interest. If we delete all subentities (except lines), we get purified alignment having only tangents. Then easly we can use start end end points to get PI points. How ever when I try to remove subentities, the alignment becomes erased. In the backround, if we produce a copy of the alignment and keep the original alignment, it is possible to remove copy alignment's entities. We can get PI points from the copy alignment with making operations on it. At the end we can delete operated, purified copy alignment. Is it possble?

[ekoneo]

Thank you for your interest. If we delete all subentities (except lines), we get purified alignment having only tangents. Then easly we can use start end end points to get PI points. How ever when I try to remove subentities, the alignment becomes erased. In the backround, if we produce a copy of the alignment and keep the original alignment, it is possible to remove copy alignment's entities. We can get PI points from the copy alignment with making operations on it. At the end we can delete operated, purified copy alignment. Is it possble?

[Jeff_M · Accepted solution]

@hippe013 yes, that works as long as the IS a tangent segment. I've never had a need to use spirals so don't know if there is ever a case to have an arc on either side of the spiral.

@ekoneo rather than muddle around with an alignment, or copy of it, by removing the non-line entities just loop through the entities as @hippe013 showed in the second example (which is the correct way) and for each AlignmentLine create a linesegment2d object from the endpoints, then use the IntersectWith() between two successive lines. 

[Jeff_M · Accepted solution]

@hippe013 yes, that works as long as the IS a tangent segment. I've never had a need to use spirals so don't know if there is ever a case to have an arc on either side of the spiral.

@ekoneo rather than muddle around with an alignment, or copy of it, by removing the non-line entities just loop through the entities as @hippe013 showed in the second example (which is the correct way) and for each AlignmentLine create a linesegment2d object from the endpoints, then use the IntersectWith() between two successive lines. 

[ekoneo]

@hippe013 and @Jeff_M I try the method that you adviced. Tank you so much.

[ekoneo]

@hippe013 and @Jeff_M I try the method that you adviced. Tank you so much.

[hippe013]

@Jeff_M You bring up a good point. I also can't think of a reason where you wouldn't have a tangent before and after the SCS, but if a user is able to create an SCS using the UI without the tangents before and after then we should account for that. Using just the SCS, the overall PI can be computed at the intersection of two vectors. 

vec1 = SpiralIn.SPIPoint - SpiralIn.StartPoint

vec2 = SpiralOut.SPIPoint - SpiralOut.EndPoint

[hippe013]

@Jeff_M You bring up a good point. I also can't think of a reason where you wouldn't have a tangent before and after the SCS, but if a user is able to create an SCS using the UI without the tangents before and after then we should account for that. Using just the SCS, the overall PI can be computed at the intersection of two vectors. 

vec1 = SpiralIn.SPIPoint - SpiralIn.StartPoint

vec2 = SpiralOut.SPIPoint - SpiralOut.EndPoint

[hippe013]

Here is a function I came up with to return the overall PI of the AlignmentSCS

Private Function GetSCSPI(scs As AlignmentSCS) As Point2d
            Using line1 As New Line2d(scs.SpiralIn.StartPoint, scs.SpiralIn.SPIPoint)
                Using line2 As New Line2d(scs.SpiralOut.EndPoint, scs.SpiralOut.SPIPoint)
                    Dim intersection() As Point2d = line1.IntersectWith(line2)
                    Return intersection(0)
                End Using
            End Using
End Function

[hippe013]

Here is a function I came up with to return the overall PI of the AlignmentSCS

Private Function GetSCSPI(scs As AlignmentSCS) As Point2d
            Using line1 As New Line2d(scs.SpiralIn.StartPoint, scs.SpiralIn.SPIPoint)
                Using line2 As New Line2d(scs.SpiralOut.EndPoint, scs.SpiralOut.SPIPoint)
                    Dim intersection() As Point2d = line1.IntersectWith(line2)
                    Return intersection(0)
                End Using
            End Using
End Function

[hosneyalaa]

Hi @kovacsv1 

great idea

Did you try it with dynamo script?

Thanks

[hosneyalaa]

Hi @kovacsv1 

great idea

Did you try it with dynamo script?

Thanks