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Message 1 of 21
Anonymous
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Internet Connection

Hi all,

I've been given the task from upper management to research different
High-speed internet connections for our small office. We currently have a
dial-up connection that connects +/- 15 workstations. What types of
connections do you use? Is Satellite reliable? T1 and cable are not options
to us so don't bother talking about them because I really don't need to get
jealous.

Thanks in advance.

Bill
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Message 2 of 21
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Have you looked into business DSL or ISDN?


"WU" wrote in message
news:E09C934F57588160B61394A6249B4654@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> Hi all,
>
> I've been given the task from upper management to research different
> High-speed internet connections for our small office. We currently have a
> dial-up connection that connects +/- 15 workstations. What types of
> connections do you use? Is Satellite reliable? T1 and cable are not
options
> to us so don't bother talking about them because I really don't need to
get
> jealous.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Bill
>
>
>
Message 3 of 21
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

We were in the same situation a few years ago.
T1 and cable were out.
So we went with a DSL. It gives us just the right speed we were looking
for.
I wish we could have gone with a T1 but the price just was not at the right
level then.

Timothy Green
Midland, TX


"WU" wrote in message
news:E09C934F57588160B61394A6249B4654@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> Hi all,
>
> I've been given the task from upper management to research different
> High-speed internet connections for our small office. We currently have a
> dial-up connection that connects +/- 15 workstations. What types of
> connections do you use? Is Satellite reliable? T1 and cable are not
options
> to us so don't bother talking about them because I really don't need to
get
> jealous.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Bill
>
>
>
Message 4 of 21
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

First, see what's available to you. Some areas do not have service for what
you may want.

"WU" wrote in message
news:E09C934F57588160B61394A6249B4654@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> Hi all,
>
> I've been given the task from upper management to research different
> High-speed internet connections for our small office. We currently have a
> dial-up connection that connects +/- 15 workstations. What types of
> connections do you use? Is Satellite reliable? T1 and cable are not
options
> to us so don't bother talking about them because I really don't need to
get
> jealous.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Bill
>
>
>
Message 5 of 21
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

nope, dsl is too far.. CO is over 20,000ft
Message 6 of 21
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

I am in the same boat, so to speak, way out here in the boonies.

Referring to your reference to Satellite, I have had good luck with DirecPC (now DirecWay) one-way (download only). Since I only
have 3 computers I have them networked peer to peer with a simple hub and use Internet Sharing on the Satellite Adapter. Ticklish
to set up and DirecWay doesn't support it well (they claim not to support ICS at all, but they do). I did get a lot of insight from
them but they never did get it to work. By trial and error I discovered that I needed to add a gateway that the software didn't
supply during the installation. However, ICS and DirecWay did blend well when I used ICS with the dial-up.

If the above is something that you are interested in and decide on, email me directly and I will provide some particulars about
setting it up. However, if you use a common server for your networking arrangement I know nothing about those parameters. About a
week ago someone posted something about that here or in the Hardware group.
--
Dave D
(remove "-" to reply)

"WU" wrote in message news:E09C934F57588160B61394A6249B4654@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> Hi all,
>
> I've been given the task from upper management to research different
> High-speed internet connections for our small office. We currently have a
> dial-up connection that connects +/- 15 workstations. What types of
> connections do you use? Is Satellite reliable? T1 and cable are not options
> to us so don't bother talking about them because I really don't need to get
> jealous.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Bill
>
>
>
Message 7 of 21
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

If you are too far for DSL or Cable and can't afford a T1 then a wireless or
satelite connection is the only option. Or you can get multiple phone lines
and multilink several dial up modems together to multiply the speed.
"WU" wrote in message
news:E09C934F57588160B61394A6249B4654@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> Hi all,
>
> I've been given the task from upper management to research different
> High-speed internet connections for our small office. We currently have a
> dial-up connection that connects +/- 15 workstations. What types of
> connections do you use? Is Satellite reliable? T1 and cable are not
options
> to us so don't bother talking about them because I really don't need to
get
> jealous.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Bill
>
>
>
Message 8 of 21
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

John Elroy wrote:
> Or you can get multiple phone lines
> and multilink several dial up modems together to multiply the speed.

Would you explain this one with some more detail?
Message 9 of 21
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

If you are not familiar with it, the help file in windows would do a better
explanation than I can give you here.
"DocB" wrote in message
news:E10F5745689663634C244E6CBEE8B5D2@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> John Elroy wrote:
> > Or you can get multiple phone lines
> > and multilink several dial up modems together to multiply the speed.
>
> Would you explain this one with some more detail?
>
>
Message 10 of 21
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

why not consider a partial T1...

for maybe a little more than DSL many ISPs will give you a partial T1
connection..

This is what I did for a medium sized company.. with about 15
workstations... it was very fast.. I thikn they hadf like 700M total
bandwidth... but the company I got it through sold 200M or so for cheaper...

You dont always have to buy a full T1..

my freind has Satellite because he lives in the sticks.. it works fine as
long as its not storming..

Nate

"WU" wrote in message
news:E09C934F57588160B61394A6249B4654@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> Hi all,
>
> I've been given the task from upper management to research different
> High-speed internet connections for our small office. We currently have a
> dial-up connection that connects +/- 15 workstations. What types of
> connections do you use? Is Satellite reliable? T1 and cable are not
options
> to us so don't bother talking about them because I really don't need to
get
> jealous.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Bill
>
>
>
Message 11 of 21
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

He mentioned that DSL and Cable are not available in his area so I doubt a
T1 line is either and I doubt they want to pay to have one run to their
office, but I could be wrong. If they want to pay to have one installed then
of course that would be the thing to do.
"Nate" wrote in message
news:F65170E88A0791CB2C67D0C055724615@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> why not consider a partial T1...
>
> for maybe a little more than DSL many ISPs will give you a partial T1
> connection..
>
> This is what I did for a medium sized company.. with about 15
> workstations... it was very fast.. I thikn they hadf like 700M total
> bandwidth... but the company I got it through sold 200M or so for
cheaper...
>
> You dont always have to buy a full T1..
>
> my freind has Satellite because he lives in the sticks.. it works fine as
> long as its not storming..
>
> Nate
>
> "WU" wrote in message
> news:E09C934F57588160B61394A6249B4654@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I've been given the task from upper management to research different
> > High-speed internet connections for our small office. We currently have
a
> > dial-up connection that connects +/- 15 workstations. What types of
> > connections do you use? Is Satellite reliable? T1 and cable are not
> options
> > to us so don't bother talking about them because I really don't need to
> get
> > jealous.
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> >
> > Bill
> >
> >
> >
>
>
Message 12 of 21
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

I am exceptionally lazy today, and would like to know what keyword you are
using to find this information in HELP.



"John Elroy" wrote in message
news:C95293475DF95A3858354F75C3CC08BB@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> If you are not familiar with it, the help file in windows would do a
better
> explanation than I can give you here.
> "DocB" wrote in message
> news:E10F5745689663634C244E6CBEE8B5D2@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > John Elroy wrote:
> > > Or you can get multiple phone lines
> > > and multilink several dial up modems together to multiply the speed.
> >
> > Would you explain this one with some more detail?
> >
> >
>
>
Message 13 of 21
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Sorry, I thought I already told you it was called multilink. Anyway, that's
what it is, MULTILINK.
"Paul Humphrey" wrote in message
news:81EF80758FE59E8A2B72CD4FCACA847B@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> I am exceptionally lazy today, and would like to know what keyword you are
> using to find this information in HELP.
>
>
>
> "John Elroy" wrote in message
> news:C95293475DF95A3858354F75C3CC08BB@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > If you are not familiar with it, the help file in windows would do a
> better
> > explanation than I can give you here.
> > "DocB" wrote in message
> > news:E10F5745689663634C244E6CBEE8B5D2@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > John Elroy wrote:
> > > > Or you can get multiple phone lines
> > > > and multilink several dial up modems together to multiply the speed.
> > >
> > > Would you explain this one with some more detail?
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
Message 14 of 21
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Multilink

- Jim


"Paul Humphrey" wrote in message
news:81EF80758FE59E8A2B72CD4FCACA847B@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> I am exceptionally lazy today, and would like to know what keyword you are
> using to find this information in HELP.
>
>
>
> "John Elroy" wrote in message
> news:C95293475DF95A3858354F75C3CC08BB@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > If you are not familiar with it, the help file in windows would do a
> better
> > explanation than I can give you here.
> > "DocB" wrote in message
> > news:E10F5745689663634C244E6CBEE8B5D2@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > John Elroy wrote:
> > > > Or you can get multiple phone lines
> > > > and multilink several dial up modems together to multiply the speed.
> > >
> > > Would you explain this one with some more detail?
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
Message 15 of 21
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

I found only obscure info in the help file - I found a google search to be
much more informative.

One thing I have learned is that very few ISPs support it as noted here:
http://www.56k.com/reports/bonding.shtml

Sounds like a good idea for a company that needs high speed access between
two separate sites and can configure their own modems accordingly, but it
sounds like it would be a bit tricky setting up with an ISP.



"Paul Humphrey" wrote in message
news:81EF80758FE59E8A2B72CD4FCACA847B@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> I am exceptionally lazy today, and would like to know what keyword you are
> using to find this information in HELP.
>
>
>
> "John Elroy" wrote in message
> news:C95293475DF95A3858354F75C3CC08BB@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > If you are not familiar with it, the help file in windows would do a
> better
> > explanation than I can give you here.
> > "DocB" wrote in message
> > news:E10F5745689663634C244E6CBEE8B5D2@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > John Elroy wrote:
> > > > Or you can get multiple phone lines
> > > > and multilink several dial up modems together to multiply the speed.
> > >
> > > Would you explain this one with some more detail?
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
Message 16 of 21
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

I wonder OS you are using? There is explicit, more then you would care to
know, information about multilinking in the Win2k help. I started doing it
when 98 came out but I'm not sure how informative that help menu is.
"DocB" wrote in message
news:E10E0849D0E865D54E4F3F40839A8A09@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> I found only obscure info in the help file - I found a google search to be
> much more informative.
>
> One thing I have learned is that very few ISPs support it as noted here:
> http://www.56k.com/reports/bonding.shtml
>
> Sounds like a good idea for a company that needs high speed access between
> two separate sites and can configure their own modems accordingly, but it
> sounds like it would be a bit tricky setting up with an ISP.
>
>
>
> "Paul Humphrey" wrote in message
> news:81EF80758FE59E8A2B72CD4FCACA847B@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > I am exceptionally lazy today, and would like to know what keyword you
are
> > using to find this information in HELP.
> >
> >
> >
> > "John Elroy" wrote in message
> > news:C95293475DF95A3858354F75C3CC08BB@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > If you are not familiar with it, the help file in windows would do a
> > better
> > > explanation than I can give you here.
> > > "DocB" wrote in message
> > > news:E10F5745689663634C244E6CBEE8B5D2@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > > John Elroy wrote:
> > > > > Or you can get multiple phone lines
> > > > > and multilink several dial up modems together to multiply the
speed.
> > > >
> > > > Would you explain this one with some more detail?
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
Message 17 of 21
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Forget about MultiLink -- it was released years ago, never worked
well, is only used with analog modems and is not even needed
anymore.

What is needed is experience not a bunch of guessing yahoos 😉

What you need to do is listen to my advice because I am experienced.
Now here we go...

All other issues considered you go into the telephone book and you
start interviewing resellers for the local telephone company. You describe
what you need and what you can afford to pay for.

You need not concern yourselves with discussing what you can affored
to pay for in this context as they earn pithy commissions based on the
configuration of services that are provided by the Telco.
The price is what it is.

The resellers make their real money from other business that the intial
lead from reselling Telco services provides. You may be such a client
of theirs or may provide referrals. So, do you understand their business
model?

What you will be discussing is ISDN or another service referred to as
Fractional T-1. You will find the cost benefit of ISDN high and likely
choose to pay the extra fee for Fractional T-1 as it can be provisioned
so you only need to pay for what you use.

I'm a degreed architect with 17+ years of Information Technology
experience. I was a reseller for SBC/Ameritech. Try what I recommend
and this particular issue will soon be mute.

--
<%= Clinton Gallagher
A/E/C Consulting, Web Design, e-Commerce Software Development
Wauwatosa, Milwaukee County, Wisconsin USA
NET csgallagher@REMOVETHISTEXTmetromilwaukee.com
URL http://www.metromilwaukee.com/clintongallagher/

LaGarde StoreFront 5 Affiliate: e-Commerce Software Development
SEE: http://www.storefront.net/default.asp?REFERER=-201499070


"John Elroy" wrote in message
news:E67679CC85DA8D21C83ADAF16FBC0A30@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> I wonder OS you are using? There is explicit, more then you would care to
> know, information about multilinking in the Win2k help. I started doing
it
> when 98 came out but I'm not sure how informative that help menu is.
> "DocB" wrote in message
> news:E10E0849D0E865D54E4F3F40839A8A09@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > I found only obscure info in the help file - I found a google search to
be
> > much more informative.
> >
> > One thing I have learned is that very few ISPs support it as noted here:
> > http://www.56k.com/reports/bonding.shtml
> >
> > Sounds like a good idea for a company that needs high speed access
between
> > two separate sites and can configure their own modems accordingly, but
it
> > sounds like it would be a bit tricky setting up with an ISP.
> >
> >
> >
> > "Paul Humphrey" wrote in message
> > news:81EF80758FE59E8A2B72CD4FCACA847B@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > I am exceptionally lazy today, and would like to know what keyword you
> are
> > > using to find this information in HELP.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "John Elroy" wrote in message
> > > news:C95293475DF95A3858354F75C3CC08BB@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > > If you are not familiar with it, the help file in windows would do a
> > > better
> > > > explanation than I can give you here.
> > > > "DocB" wrote in message
> > > > news:E10F5745689663634C244E6CBEE8B5D2@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > > > John Elroy wrote:
> > > > > > Or you can get multiple phone lines
> > > > > > and multilink several dial up modems together to multiply the
> speed.
> > > > >
> > > > > Would you explain this one with some more detail?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
Message 18 of 21
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

"clintonG" wrote in message
news:A7822325174DF601536E7F4B7D8E2C91@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> I'm a degreed architect with 17+ years of Information Technology
> experience. I was a reseller for SBC/Ameritech. Try what I recommend
> and this particular issue will soon be mute.
>

Well I don't know about the rest of you but I hope my internet connection
won't soon be mute.
Message 19 of 21
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

If you can get a telephone line to your location, you can get a T-1.

T-1 does not have the range limitation from the Central Office that
DSL has, and Cable Internet access is completely dependent on your
cable provider and is not used much in commercial environments anyway,
since the bandwidth is shared and cannot be guaranteed.

Matt
mstachoni@comcast.net
mstachoni@bhhtait.com

On Fri, 15 Nov 2002 07:07:47 -0800, "John Elroy"
wrote:

>He mentioned that DSL and Cable are not available in his area so I doubt a
>T1 line is either and I doubt they want to pay to have one run to their
>office, but I could be wrong. If they want to pay to have one installed then
>of course that would be the thing to do.
Message 20 of 21
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

You could also look into IDSL. Believe it or not, it is the only option for
our office that is located in a suburb of Chicago.
It is only a one person office, so a T1 is too expensive. ISDL is the same
speed as ISDN but it's always online like DSL.

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk13/tk175/tk349/tech_protocol_home.html

Joel Roderick
CAD Development Group, LLP
www.caddevelopmentgroup.com

"WU" wrote in message
news:E09C934F57588160B61394A6249B4654@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> Hi all,
>
> I've been given the task from upper management to research different
> High-speed internet connections for our small office. We currently have a
> dial-up connection that connects +/- 15 workstations. What types of
> connections do you use? Is Satellite reliable? T1 and cable are not
options
> to us so don't bother talking about them because I really don't need to
get
> jealous.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Bill
>
>
>

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