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Deleting a version of a Document without losing all previous versions

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Message 1 of 22
darren.brimble
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Deleting a version of a Document without losing all previous versions

Is there any way I can delete a version without deleting all past versions. I have uploaded a new version of a document and have noticed a fairly minor error but would like to replace it with a corrected version however the document hasn't been viewed by the team and the change doesn't warrant a new revision. The only option I seem to have is to delete the entire document however that obviously contains all the previous versions. Is there any way I can delete just the one version? 

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Message 2 of 22

Hi @darren.brimble,

 

Thank you for posting to the BIM 360 Forum.  

 

At this time, there is no way to remove a specific version of a file uploaded to Document Management.  This is an enhancement that has been logged with the BIM 360 Ideas website for Future Consideration.  You can VOTE UP that idea by visiting Removal of one version of a document.

 

Please let us know if you have any additional questions or comments.  Thank you and I look forward to your reply.


Best regards,

 

 

Patrick B.

Global Product Support

Message 3 of 22

Hi @darren.brimble,

 

I'm just checking in to see if you need more help with this. Did the suggestion that @patrick.beattie provided work for you?

If so, please click Accept as Solution on the posts that helped you so others in the community can find them easily.

 

Thank you and have a great day!



Anil Mistry
Technical Support Specialist
Message 4 of 22

It's a bit of a none-answer which doesn't really help. Basically if the idea/change gets enough votes it will happen? 

Message 5 of 22
Anonymous
in reply to: patrick.beattie

Do we know when this will happen? This is essential to properly use this feature. I am currently dealing with a PDF file that for some reason was uploaded (5) times. I followed the Autodesk-prescribed protocol and this is what happens.

 

This feature is absolutely unusable if this is not fixed. Please provide an update for us--this is an incredibly frustrating experience.

Message 6 of 22
Anonymous
in reply to: darren.brimble

Hi Darren

 

Unless I am misunderstanding the question - any errors in the upload can be corrected by 'rolling back' to the previous version.

Click on the Version No and then when the dialogue box comes up, click on Make Current on a previous version and this will roll back to that one without losing the integrity and audit trail of the previous uploads.

I always impress on the external consultants or our Document Controllers NEVER delete a file.

 

Hope that helps, even though this thread is a few weeks old.

 

Regards

Andrew

Message 7 of 22
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

You are correct that versions can be rolled back and generally speaking, it is not ideal to delete items in document control environments. However, we do not work in ideal conditions and there are still serious setbacks to simply rolling back a version than simply removing it.

 

The idea behind not deleting documentation is to prevent deception or fraud. Document control should be a fixed and predictable protocol. We understand this. The dilemma is that things happen and there are times when it is actually in the project's best interest to simply delete and reissue rather than explain to dozens of subcontractors, estimators, and the owner to ignore V5, V6, and V7 because and use V4 for A100, ignore V3, V4, and V5 of A101 and use V2, etc.,  because it uploaded multiple times by accident (see my earlier post). Why even have the documents up and available for all to see if it is just plain wrong? And what happens when new team members join? Am I supposed to educate them on the nuances and problems of the document control so they can actually use the feature? There is no value in this. Indeed, it makes things far worse. Why not just delete the non-value added drawings?

 

I have document control experience and construction administration experience, and I will not use this feature on projects until there is some remedy to fix erroneous issuances of drawings. There is no way I am going to have up on the screen all of these irrelevant documents, trying to figure out which version is the correct one for my overlays for instance. I can see the meeting now:

 

"Why didn't they pour the concrete stairs? I thought it was captured in this most recent ASI. Let's take a look at the drawings and see if the updates in the drawings were captured. Wait, what changed between V2 and V3 for this structural mild-reinforced plan? Oh, nothing. V3 must have been a duplicate upload. So then I'm comparing V3 against V1 then. OK, what about sheet S201? Oh, okay, looks like V3, V4, and V5 are the throw-away issuances. We'll do an overlay of V1 and V2." Am I supposed to have a log of which drawings are duplicates, and which are "good?"  All of the drawings should be useful or provide some value as they currently stand. No one should have to introduce another layer of coordination with the drawings when it comes to document control. Projects are difficult as it is, and this added layer of coordination provides no value to clients.

 

It's quite simple: please provide the flexibility required with the drawings and allow the ability to delete versions. Projects needs this kind of flexibility.

Message 8 of 22
darren.brimble
in reply to: Anonymous

@Anonymous 

 

Reverting to a past version is not ideal as per @Anonymous  comments. We need control over the entire environment particularly so at admin level. For instance if a file has a very minor but fundamental issue it does not warrant up-versioning or revision. This has happened to us in the past and regardless of checks and approvals we put in place our consultants and subcontractors can and will make mistakes through human error. These mistakes can either be removed quickly and easily, or, allowed to sit on the system leading to countless questions and queries that need to be addressed individually by information managers. This is time consuming and ineffective management of a simple problem that can be remedied with simple functionality.

 

Regards,

Message 9 of 22
Anonymous
in reply to: anil_mistry

Accept it as a solution????

Please tell us what you think was solved here . . .

Message 10 of 22
Anonymous
in reply to: darren.brimble

I'd like to agree that this is a very necessary feature.  Document control needs to be clear and concise and not being able to delete versions once they have been uploaded causes a lot of confusion when working in precise environments that require full coordination among all parties. Please consider adding this feature.

Message 11 of 22

Any update with this? 

 

I'll give you an example of my situation. We were about to do a major upload of drawings and it was spotted that some hadn't been given the new revision number. Another team member has jumped the gun and uploaded all the documents and now we have to delete all these drawings (and their revisions) then reupload (multiple times) so that they will have the correct revision and version number.

 

This isn't acceptable that this functionality isn't available and Autodesk is shooting themselves in the foot because it is only a matter of time until someone comes along that will provide the tools that your customers need.

 

Message 12 of 22

years later ... still cant operate as basic functionality

 

its got 100 votes but still no fix ...   360 degrees is a full circle, id call this BIM0.1

 

and the muppet that argued to not be allowed to delete ... for crying out load some educated people are dumb

Message 13 of 22

We are in 2022 and still this basic functionality is not provided. Why?

One has mentioned that this flexibility shall be provided for the users who have admin level. Is it a big deal? if yes, let someone from Autodesk on this forum respond to all theses concerns.

 

Message 14 of 22

I have to agree with what's been said regarding the ability to be able to remove a version. In my case, I have done markups and then accidentally uploaded the wrong document, as a pdf, and now I have a different document represented as a version, with my markups, which dont correlate. Simply being able to delete the incorrect document is a requirement.

Message 15 of 22

Is there anyone from Autodesk to respond to this query????

Message 16 of 22


@benoit.tahchiYBKWB wrote:

Is there anyone from Autodesk to respond to this query????


Messages #2 and #3 are from Autodesk.

Message 17 of 22

and what kind of responses are those? The Autodesk guys keep saying, future considerations and has been many years raising the same issue

Message 18 of 22


@benoit.tahchiYBKWB wrote:

and what kind of responses are those? 


They are responses and, from your question, you missed them.

 


@benoit.tahchiYBKWB wrote:

The Autodesk guys keep saying, future considerations and has been many years raising the same issue

It seems as though they may have considered it and decided not to implement it and probably for good reason.

Message 19 of 22

I like the "good reasons"

Message 20 of 22
isachorta
in reply to: darren.brimble

is there any update about this feature. Is very important looking comments numbers did.

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