Looking for Answers for Toll Architecture AutoCAD Skills Assessment - Test

[Anonymous]

I found this assessment at the following on line.

[DOC]AutoCad Skills Assessment - Autodesk forums

forums.autodesk.com/.../112/.../AutoCad%20Skills%20Assessment%20-%20Test.DOC

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A window; A box; A rectangle; A viewport. Toll Architecture AutoCAD Skills Assessment. What's the easiest way to know if you are in PaperSpace mode? ____.

I have been looking for the answers but have not found them. I am pretty sure I got them all correct, but would like the answers because we may use this for new hires. Could you please help.

[Anonymous]

I found this assessment at the following on line.

[DOC]AutoCad Skills Assessment - Autodesk forums

forums.autodesk.com/.../112/.../AutoCad%20Skills%20Assessment%20-%20Test.DOC

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A window; A box; A rectangle; A viewport. Toll Architecture AutoCAD Skills Assessment. What's the easiest way to know if you are in PaperSpace mode? ____.

I have been looking for the answers but have not found them. I am pretty sure I got them all correct, but would like the answers because we may use this for new hires. Could you please help.

[Darin.Green · Accepted solution]

@Anonymous

This test is easy, and out dated... Many of the questions needs to be updated unless you're looking for baby boomers to take the assessment.   Why not generate your own assessment questions around the work your company does and that relates to the job they're applying for...

The answer to you question:

What's the easiest way to know if you are in PaperSpace mode?

A. Zoom Out <-- Only if the viewport isn't locked

B. Ask Someone

C. Look at the layout Tab <-- Only show if you're in model space or paper space not the mode.

D. Try Printing

E. Check Application Status Bar <-- Is the answer but doesn't exist on the assessment

Again, create your own assessment around tasks used on projects within your company.

Example 1:

What formula is used to find the Area of a room?

A. L x H x W

B. L + H + W

C. ΔL x ΔH

D. L x H <-- Answer

Questions like this would imply the user know how to check his work.

Example 2:

If there are two points {A & B} with the distance between them being 10 inches and the difference in elevation is 35, what is the elevation of point C at a distance of 2.5 from the point A (everything else remain the same)?

A. 3.5

B. 7.0

C. 8.75 <-- Answer

D. 9.25

Questions like this would imply the user has basic knowledge and understanding of Algebra.

[Darin.Green · Accepted solution]

@Anonymous

This test is easy, and out dated... Many of the questions needs to be updated unless you're looking for baby boomers to take the assessment.   Why not generate your own assessment questions around the work your company does and that relates to the job they're applying for...

The answer to you question:

What's the easiest way to know if you are in PaperSpace mode?

A. Zoom Out <-- Only if the viewport isn't locked

B. Ask Someone

C. Look at the layout Tab <-- Only show if you're in model space or paper space not the mode.

D. Try Printing

E. Check Application Status Bar <-- Is the answer but doesn't exist on the assessment

Again, create your own assessment around tasks used on projects within your company.

Example 1:

What formula is used to find the Area of a room?

A. L x H x W

B. L + H + W

C. ΔL x ΔH

D. L x H <-- Answer

Questions like this would imply the user know how to check his work.

Example 2:

If there are two points {A & B} with the distance between them being 10 inches and the difference in elevation is 35, what is the elevation of point C at a distance of 2.5 from the point A (everything else remain the same)?

A. 3.5

B. 7.0

C. 8.75 <-- Answer

D. 9.25

Questions like this would imply the user has basic knowledge and understanding of Algebra.

[Anonymous]

Thank you for your response. I am in the process of putting together an assessment for our company use, thought I could use a couple of those questions.

JERRY MIDDELSTADT | Design Drafter - Engineering

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[Anonymous]

Thank you for your response. I am in the process of putting together an assessment for our company use, thought I could use a couple of those questions.

JERRY MIDDELSTADT | Design Drafter - Engineering

Coldspring
17482 Granite West Road | Cold Spring, MN 56320-4578
😧 320.685.4871 | C: 320.267.8883 | F: 320.685.5094
www.coldspringusa.com| jmiddelstadt@coldspringusa.comFollow us on Twitter | Facebook
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[RobDraw · Accepted solution]

If you are not sure of all of the answers, don't ask the question or word it in a way that makes you sure.

I don't agree with @Darin.Green's response. A couple of his answers were not "correct" and they get away from the purpose of the assessment.

When testing new hires for proficiency in a program, you need to determine the qualifications you are looking for and focus on them. Keep it short, direct, and relevant to the tasks they will be doing.

[RobDraw · Accepted solution]

If you are not sure of all of the answers, don't ask the question or word it in a way that makes you sure.

I don't agree with @Darin.Green's response. A couple of his answers were not "correct" and they get away from the purpose of the assessment.

When testing new hires for proficiency in a program, you need to determine the qualifications you are looking for and focus on them. Keep it short, direct, and relevant to the tasks they will be doing.

[Darin.Green · Accepted solution]

@RobDraw

Only one of the answers were partially wrong -> Example 1 should've been L x W ... My mistake... 

The purpose of an assessment is to determine whether or not a user can perform his/her job function. Kids in middle school can answer those questions... If you're only looking for a drafter for labeling and redline work, then your assessment may be ok.

Keep in mind, that's why many CAD Managers spend most of their time checking the work of every change made to the models, because they can't trust the efficiency of their staff.

As a CAD Manager, I require applicants to know more than just the application. It would be easier to teach them the application, rather the engineering that goes into it. There are too many applicants who doesn't know how to check their own work and rely solely on the calculations from the app and that's what companies should be looking for in my opinion. 

@Anonymous - My point is that you should create your own assessment for applicants that fits your business needs while keeping the end goal in mind.

Good Luck!

[Darin.Green · Accepted solution]

@RobDraw

Only one of the answers were partially wrong -> Example 1 should've been L x W ... My mistake... 

The purpose of an assessment is to determine whether or not a user can perform his/her job function. Kids in middle school can answer those questions... If you're only looking for a drafter for labeling and redline work, then your assessment may be ok.

Keep in mind, that's why many CAD Managers spend most of their time checking the work of every change made to the models, because they can't trust the efficiency of their staff.

As a CAD Manager, I require applicants to know more than just the application. It would be easier to teach them the application, rather the engineering that goes into it. There are too many applicants who doesn't know how to check their own work and rely solely on the calculations from the app and that's what companies should be looking for in my opinion. 

@Anonymous - My point is that you should create your own assessment for applicants that fits your business needs while keeping the end goal in mind.

Good Luck!

[Anonymous]

Don't worry about the error, I knew what it was. I agree with the statement;"There are too many applicants who doesn't know how to check their own work and rely solely on the calculations from the app". It needs to go a little farther. I started drawing by hand with the T-Square, the parallel bar, the drafting machine and then to AutoCAD 2.6. What I am finding now is that applicants or even some beginning drafters "don't know what the are actually drawing". They are using the program to put lines, circles, etc. on the screen. I am looking for a way to not only test AutoCAD/Inventor skills but basic knowledge & the understanding of what they are asked to do.

[Anonymous]

Don't worry about the error, I knew what it was. I agree with the statement;"There are too many applicants who doesn't know how to check their own work and rely solely on the calculations from the app". It needs to go a little farther. I started drawing by hand with the T-Square, the parallel bar, the drafting machine and then to AutoCAD 2.6. What I am finding now is that applicants or even some beginning drafters "don't know what the are actually drawing". They are using the program to put lines, circles, etc. on the screen. I am looking for a way to not only test AutoCAD/Inventor skills but basic knowledge & the understanding of what they are asked to do.

[RobDraw · Accepted solution]

I totally disagree. That is what resumes, interviews, and references are for. Most places hire good people quite successfully without even giving a CAD test. A good CAD test should come during or after the 2nd interview and will help you determine if potential candidates can perform the tasks required of them while using the program and if they can follow typical office procedures to help you determine the best candidate. In other words, a bit of an understanding of how they will work in your office's environment. Not to determine if they are a candidate.

Now, if someone gets through the interview process and cannot perform basic the AutoCAD functions required, it means there is something wrong with the interview process or the potential hire lied. If everything has gone well, everyone taking the test should be able to pass it in a number of ways. The way that they choose to do it can be a really good indicator of how much they know about the program.

For example, as part of the test, tell them to do something in a particular way that resembles a typical workflow for the position. They should get the right result.

They might hack their way through it. Not a good candidate

Or, they might do it the way that you told them to. A good candidate.

Or, they might show you a better way of doing it. Definite hire.

Something just dawned on me. The OP may have a different reason for the test. Possibly, needing it before the first interview to weed out people who are not qualified. If that is the case, I'm a little off base but not too far.

[RobDraw · Accepted solution]

I totally disagree. That is what resumes, interviews, and references are for. Most places hire good people quite successfully without even giving a CAD test. A good CAD test should come during or after the 2nd interview and will help you determine if potential candidates can perform the tasks required of them while using the program and if they can follow typical office procedures to help you determine the best candidate. In other words, a bit of an understanding of how they will work in your office's environment. Not to determine if they are a candidate.

Now, if someone gets through the interview process and cannot perform basic the AutoCAD functions required, it means there is something wrong with the interview process or the potential hire lied. If everything has gone well, everyone taking the test should be able to pass it in a number of ways. The way that they choose to do it can be a really good indicator of how much they know about the program.

For example, as part of the test, tell them to do something in a particular way that resembles a typical workflow for the position. They should get the right result.

They might hack their way through it. Not a good candidate

Or, they might do it the way that you told them to. A good candidate.

Or, they might show you a better way of doing it. Definite hire.

Something just dawned on me. The OP may have a different reason for the test. Possibly, needing it before the first interview to weed out people who are not qualified. If that is the case, I'm a little off base but not too far.