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Reconnect pipe

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Message 1 of 19
Anonymous
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Reconnect pipe

I just moved a bunch of equipment and pipe using 3DMOVE 2 feet to the left. When I did this, it broke all of the pipe connections to the fittings, valves and equipment. Is there an easy way to reconnect the piping without going through each and every fitting?

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Message 2 of 19
jabowabo
in reply to: Anonymous

edit: sorry I should read the question more carefully before replying 😉

 

Move the components again using the standard MOVE command. They should reconnect, then you can MOVE again.

Message 3 of 19
Anonymous
in reply to: jabowabo

They don't reconnect even with the regular move command. They're all shown with the water drop symbol. If I zoom in really close to the joints, the connection points are ever so slightly below the pipe connection point.

Message 4 of 19
jabowabo
in reply to: Anonymous

I can't reproduce this type of coordinate skewing when I move parts in unison. If the port coordinates do not match then you must move them so they do before connecting. 

Message 5 of 19
ryan.bales
in reply to: Anonymous

 

Aside from adjusting the grips? Not really. I've had mixed results stretching pipe runs to do them all at the same time but you'll likely need to reattach some parts. Connections will automatically be made when their respective ports coincide. 

 

While its a bit late for this, when adjusting Plant 3D parts its best to use grips - even the equipment has them - for keeping parts attached. *Note this only works cleanly if they are in the same model. Otherwise you'll need to stretch parts in their respective models.

 

I would not use MOVE unless I had no choice. It is a guarantee to break part connections without healing them cleanly. There are exceptions, like mentioned above when the ports are in the same place, but for the most part it will take some work to get it reconnected.

 

 



Ryan Bales
Fusion 360 Product Support
Message 6 of 19

How big are your coordinates?



Tomislav Golubovic
Technical Specialist - Plant and Infrastructure
Autodesk Australia / New Zealand
Autodesk, Inc.
Autodesk ANZ YouTube Channel
Message 7 of 19
Anonymous
in reply to: TomislavGolubovic

Looking at the grid was a good idea. I set it to 1/8" with a major line every 4 lines. I was so sure that was going to fix it.....alas, it still disconnects everything when I use MOVE or 3DMOVE.

Message 8 of 19
Slawomir_
in reply to: Anonymous

Equipment models are in your drawing or they are referenced from Project drawings?

Do you move pipes and equipment together or separately?

Message 9 of 19
Anonymous
in reply to: Slawomir_

I've tried it with moving just pipes/fittings, pipes/fittings/valves and pipe/fittings/equipment. Same results. The pipe becomes disconnected from anything it was attached to previously.

Message 10 of 19
ryan.bales
in reply to: Anonymous

Unless you are moving an entire pipe run and equipment I would NOT use move! You will have to reconnect components after moving them.

 

If you are moving and entire pipe run and equipment and its still disconnecting its likely the components are not aligned properly. You had one reply that suggested this may be the case.  



Ryan Bales
Fusion 360 Product Support
Message 11 of 19
Dadspackard
in reply to: Anonymous

@Anonymous,

 

 

For our visual purposes could you post some screen shots of what you are trying to accomplish?

Tom
aka, Dadspackard, Packin31
Message 12 of 19
Slawomir_
in reply to: Anonymous

Moving entire pipe run + equipment is okay as @ryan.bales stated. In any other case don't use MOVE.

 

Maybe you can share your drawing?

Message 13 of 19
Anonymous
in reply to: Slawomir_

See attached. I'm not so worried about the connections to the equipment because those are generic blocks right now. it's more about easily changing the elevations of the entire pipe rack or changing the distance between the tanks easily if it needs to be shifted. Is there a way to do that without going pipe by pipe if it is all being moved the same distance without breaking everything?

Message 14 of 19
ryan.bales
in reply to: Anonymous

Anything command you use that isn't the grips on the components will carry with it the risk of breaking connections.

 

Grips are the recommended and safest way by far. But in the case you are discussing I've often removed or allowed the vertical connection to be broken and stretched the pipe or auto-routed back to the connection point at the elbow or fitting. 

 

There really isn't an easy way to do this.



Ryan Bales
Fusion 360 Product Support
Message 15 of 19

Also instead of just selecting items, you should be using the Plant selection tools. If you pick a piece of pipe, then right click, and Add to Selection and pick an option, it'll pick the connected lines, plus fasteners etc etc. Sometimes welds or connectors might not move as part of a normal Select.



Tomislav Golubovic
Technical Specialist - Plant and Infrastructure
Autodesk Australia / New Zealand
Autodesk, Inc.
Autodesk ANZ YouTube Channel
Message 16 of 19
Slawomir_
in reply to: Anonymous

I've moved, stretched pipes in 3d sample.dwg. Each connection between pipe, elbow, flange, valve, equipment was disconnected... very odd behaviour.

Assigning tag to pipes and equipment makes no difference.

 

I strongly recommend you to contact your software provider. Or contact Autodesk suport.

Message 17 of 19
Slawomir_
in reply to: Anonymous

Have you found solution to your question?

Message 18 of 19
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Hello All,

 

I'm a bit late to the party here, but you should be able to use the command "PLANTCONNECTJOINT" and that should clear up the disconnect glyph (drip symbol). 

Message 19 of 19
m.reyes74B3T
in reply to: Anonymous

the simplest answer in the entire thread. Thanks for answering despite being late as you helped me!

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