plant 3d discontinued?

[jlkono]

I see in the autodesk product line 2018 that plant3d is no longer being issued for new release. If I am interpreting that correctly, any idea if a similar product will be introduced by autodesk?

thanks.

[dgorsman]

Would you mind sharing a link to where you're seeing this?

[DarrenP]

i know autocad p&id as a separate product has been discontinued nothing about Plant 3D

[h_eger]

AutoCAD P&ID has been integrated into AutoCAD Plant 3D as of version 2018.

here the link to AutoCAD Plant 3D 2018 

and it will continue in the future with Plant 3D.

[jlkono]

thank you all for responding. I had indeed brainslipped on reading plant3d vs Pi&d.

[GallowayUS_com_RonAllen1]

Revit.

Revit isn't just for architects anymore- it is an integrated platform - especially in the new 2nd Generation A360  Cloud "Design collaboration" interface that has finally started building up the MEP side.

I have seen half a dozen projects now in water treatment that have used revit for integration and coordination with Civil 3D. Massive pipe and pump systems- and in Revit 2019 there are recent improvements to the flow calculations and parameters which may be of interest. https://goo.gl/RHxEXp

Plant 3D is built on top of AutoCAD 3d which with does have access to ACIS  solid modeling - but Autocad is not as integrated as Revit parametrics for representation and scalability of parametric objects. 

[GallowayUS_com_RonAllen1]

Revit.

Revit isn't just for architects anymore- it is an integrated platform - especially in the new 2nd Generation A360  Cloud "Design collaboration" interface that has finally started building up the MEP side.

I have seen half a dozen projects now in water treatment that have used revit for integration and coordination with Civil 3D. Massive pipe and pump systems- and in Revit 2019 there are recent improvements to the flow calculations and parameters which may be of interest. https://goo.gl/RHxEXp

Plant 3D is built on top of AutoCAD 3d. Last I checked - Autocad does not manage fully integrated parametric systems; Revit does, leveraging its parametrics for representation and scalability of parametric objects.  Semantics- in the end you get lines on paper with Autocad, and with Revit you get a model that integrates across disciplines

[dgorsman]

Not entirely accurate.  Plant3D does a *lot* more than "just lines on paper".  It provides data-rich models which can be coordinated not just with Navisworks but directly XREF'd into other AutoCAD-based products like Civil3D.  Only recently has Revit started into PCF and piping isometrics, which have been present in the DWG side for... well, lets just say it's been around a little bit longer.

Plant3D is also spec driven design which is essential in the process piping industry.  Not to mention it delivers content directly in DWG format, which is still very common in that industry (hint: the natural gas you're using wasn't processed in Revit-designed facilities).  Giving a Revit model to a client in the process piping industry will get a response of "What am I supposed to do with this?", no matter how "BIM" it is.