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Anonymous
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Can I miter pipe in plant 3d 2016. I have a 24" to miter.

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pipe miter

Can I miter pipe in plant 3d 2016. I have a 24" to miter.

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h_eger
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it is already possible to 50%.
Does not look nice 😞
What number of degrees you want to have for the Miter?

 

05-05-_2016_17-17-09.jpg

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it is already possible to 50%.
Does not look nice 😞
What number of degrees you want to have for the Miter?

 

05-05-_2016_17-17-09.jpg

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Hartmut Eger
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Message 3 of 13
Anonymous
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Hi could you give a bit of a detailed explanation on how you achieved this without getting leaks and does it Iso out okay

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Hi could you give a bit of a detailed explanation on how you achieved this without getting leaks and does it Iso out okay

Message 4 of 13
Anonymous
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Hi. 

 

Have you been able to sort this? 

I have a similar problem. I have 2x 24" pipes that have a deviation of 135mm that need to be connected by a miter elbow.  Can anyone help?

 

Thanks

 

Igor Guerra

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Hi. 

 

Have you been able to sort this? 

I have a similar problem. I have 2x 24" pipes that have a deviation of 135mm that need to be connected by a miter elbow.  Can anyone help?

 

Thanks

 

Igor Guerra

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h_eger
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Dear @Anonymous ,

 

please make the following changes in the DefaultConnectorsConfig.xml file
in the section <Joint Name = "Buttweld">
<SlopeTolerance> 45.0 </SlopeTolerance>
<OffsetTolerance> 45.0 </OffsetTolerance>

 

Then only draw the individual line segments and as shown in the screencast

https://autode.sk/32Tx05c 

 

        <Joint Name="Buttweld">
            <FittingElements/>
            <JointElements>
                <JointElement PartType="Buttweld"/>
            </JointElements>
            <MatchCondition>E1.NominalDiameter=E2.NominalDiameter</MatchCondition>
            <OptionalMatchCondition/>
            <EndConditions1>
                <EndCondition>BV</EndCondition>
                <EndCondition>PL</EndCondition>
            </EndConditions1>
            <EndConditions2>
                <EndCondition>BV</EndCondition>
                <EndCondition>PL</EndCondition>
            </EndConditions2>
            <Description>Stumpf geschweißte Verbindung</Description>
            <SlopeTolerance>45.0</SlopeTolerance>
            <OffsetTolerance>45.0</OffsetTolerance>
        </Joint>

 

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Dear @Anonymous ,

 

please make the following changes in the DefaultConnectorsConfig.xml file
in the section <Joint Name = "Buttweld">
<SlopeTolerance> 45.0 </SlopeTolerance>
<OffsetTolerance> 45.0 </OffsetTolerance>

 

Then only draw the individual line segments and as shown in the screencast

https://autode.sk/32Tx05c 

 

        <Joint Name="Buttweld">
            <FittingElements/>
            <JointElements>
                <JointElement PartType="Buttweld"/>
            </JointElements>
            <MatchCondition>E1.NominalDiameter=E2.NominalDiameter</MatchCondition>
            <OptionalMatchCondition/>
            <EndConditions1>
                <EndCondition>BV</EndCondition>
                <EndCondition>PL</EndCondition>
            </EndConditions1>
            <EndConditions2>
                <EndCondition>BV</EndCondition>
                <EndCondition>PL</EndCondition>
            </EndConditions2>
            <Description>Stumpf geschweißte Verbindung</Description>
            <SlopeTolerance>45.0</SlopeTolerance>
            <OffsetTolerance>45.0</OffsetTolerance>
        </Joint>

 

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If my reply was helpful, please give a "Kudo" or click the "Accept as Solution" button below (or both).

Hartmut Eger
Senior Engineer
Anlagenplanung + Elektotechnik
XING | LinkedIn

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Message 6 of 13
Anonymous
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Anonymous
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Thanks for your quick reply.

The project manager changed this to a standard elbow, cut to size. Nevertheless I'll try it later this week and let you know if it works for us.

 

Best regards,

 

Igor Guerra

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Thanks for your quick reply.

The project manager changed this to a standard elbow, cut to size. Nevertheless I'll try it later this week and let you know if it works for us.

 

Best regards,

 

Igor Guerra

Message 7 of 13
Anonymous
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The Autodesk development team definitely should implement pipe miter feature...

We have the same problem.

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The Autodesk development team definitely should implement pipe miter feature...

We have the same problem.

Message 8 of 13
h_eger
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@ all

 

In which standard is it written that a pipe miter is allowed in this angle?
With all ferrite and austenutic pipe materials, pipe miters are allowed up to a maximum of 5 °.
this is my level of knowledge.
For all other standards or rules I would be very grateful to receive them so that we can give the Autodesk developers the necessary information for this function.

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Hartmut Eger
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@ all

 

In which standard is it written that a pipe miter is allowed in this angle?
With all ferrite and austenutic pipe materials, pipe miters are allowed up to a maximum of 5 °.
this is my level of knowledge.
For all other standards or rules I would be very grateful to receive them so that we can give the Autodesk developers the necessary information for this function.

-

If my reply was helpful, please give a "Kudo" or click the "Accept as Solution" button below (or both).

Hartmut Eger
Senior Engineer
Anlagenplanung + Elektotechnik
XING | LinkedIn

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Message 9 of 13
Anonymous
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I'm sorry but I'm new to the piping business and I don't have that knowledge. 

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I'm sorry but I'm new to the piping business and I don't have that knowledge. 

Message 10 of 13
Anonymous
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Anonymous
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Hello,

 

One of many examples - Exhaust gas pipes

 

maciejkozdras_0-1599229052653.png

 

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Hello,

 

One of many examples - Exhaust gas pipes

 

maciejkozdras_0-1599229052653.png

 

Message 11 of 13
h_eger
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Dear @Anonymous ,

 

a lot is possible in shipbuilding with diesel engines.
I am familiar with these standards issues.
the exhaust pipe is designed and processed according to good engineering practice.
Today we have to provide the individual proof of such connections to the accepting authority.

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Dear @Anonymous ,

 

a lot is possible in shipbuilding with diesel engines.
I am familiar with these standards issues.
the exhaust pipe is designed and processed according to good engineering practice.
Today we have to provide the individual proof of such connections to the accepting authority.

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If my reply was helpful, please give a "Kudo" or click the "Accept as Solution" button below (or both).

Hartmut Eger
Senior Engineer
Anlagenplanung + Elektotechnik
XING | LinkedIn

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Message 12 of 13
Anonymous
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Dear @h_eger 


We built many ships installations last few years. I can assure you that the solution presented below are accepted by DNV, BV etc.

 

If you are interested check our website.

https://www.westcon.no/selskap/yards/hjem

 

Autodesk Plant 3D is the first software I have to work, that doesn't have this feature.

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Dear @h_eger 


We built many ships installations last few years. I can assure you that the solution presented below are accepted by DNV, BV etc.

 

If you are interested check our website.

https://www.westcon.no/selskap/yards/hjem

 

Autodesk Plant 3D is the first software I have to work, that doesn't have this feature.

Message 13 of 13
h_eger
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Dear @Anonymous ,

 

Here is the link to the idea station.

 

https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-plant-3d-p-id-ideas/idb-p/48 


Please check if the post already exists, otherwise please create a new post on this topic

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If my reply was helpful, please give a "Kudo" or click the "Accept as Solution" button below (or both).

Hartmut Eger
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Anlagenplanung + Elektotechnik
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Dear @Anonymous ,

 

Here is the link to the idea station.

 

https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-plant-3d-p-id-ideas/idb-p/48 


Please check if the post already exists, otherwise please create a new post on this topic

-

If my reply was helpful, please give a "Kudo" or click the "Accept as Solution" button below (or both).

Hartmut Eger
Senior Engineer
Anlagenplanung + Elektotechnik
XING | LinkedIn

EESignature



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