Flange Group Annotation trouble

[jperez46LZW]

Hello,

I am trying to separate the Flange and Gasket Bubbles.  We do not list Bolts in our BOM where I work.  I created a Flange/Gasket group and if I enable the multiple blocks option I get no bubbles on the Iso.  For the moment it seems I am stuck with one bubble with Flange and Gasket numbers together.  Any help will be appreciated.  using Plant 3D 2023.

Here is my XML for the Group Scheme.

Thanks,

Jon

[AndyDavisArkance · Accepted solution]

Hi Jon,

I've been looking at this and it seems that the group schemes expect to have 3 components and pass 3 ids through to an annotation block. 

For a workaround, I have managed to persuade it to display just flange and gasket ids with a new annotation block that receives all 3 ids as attributes but only displays 2.  I also swapped around the bolt and gasket Tags in the GroupFormat:

In the block editor, attribute X06 is set to invisible, the rectangle is a wipeout frame:

I hope you find this useful.

Regards,

Andy

[jperez46LZW]

Thanks Andy.  I'll try to implement this and will get back to you.  What are you using to edit and view the XML?  I have been using XML notepad, and I admit I am not crazy about it.

I still have concerns, because there are no bolts in our models.  It is considered a stock item for the shop, and we don't include them in our designs.  So I am wondering if this is going to cause more issues

[AndyDavisArkance]

Hi,

I use firstobject XML editor - its the best I've found.

Regards,

Andy

[jperez46LZW]

Me again.  I have been busy today and still haven't been able to try and implement this.  Andy, you made a custom block using one of the provided blocks I'm assuming?

[jperez46LZW]

Andy.  It took some finesse in the IsoConfig, but I got it working without having to create a new block.  Thanks for your guidance with this.  You've been a big help!  I do have one more question though.  In your picture the leader is pointing at the lead bubble, mine is pointing to the center between the two.  How can I change that without manual manipulation?  Sorry for asking about the simple stuff, but I am just getting my feet wet in the advanced settings and IsoConfig.

At First it wouldn't work, then I set IncludeMate to "false" and it worked.

Thanks Again!

Jon

[h_eger]

Unfortunately, as far as I know, the arrangement of the guide line is not adjustable. This always goes to the geometric centre point.

[AndyDavisArkance]

Hi Jon,

Pleased you have this working now, and thank you for the input.

I was not able to get this to work simply by setting IncludeMate to false.

Comparing my isoconfig with yours, I have noticed that the lines GroupFormat Count="3" and GroupFormat Count="4" also need to be removed to make it work.

The position of the leaders is controlled by the AnnotationLeaderStyle setting LeaderConnectionPoint. 3 options: AnnotationMiddle, AnnotationCenter and AnnotationCorner give the following results:

   AnnotationMiddle

   AnnotationCenter 

   AnnotationCorner

Regards,

Andy

[jperez46LZW]

"Comparing my isoconfig with yours, I have noticed that the lines GroupFormat Count="3" and GroupFormat Count="4" also need to be removed to make it work."

You are correct.  Sorry I didn't mention taking those out.  It was late and my Brain was close to clocking out for the day.