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Custom properties on Isometric

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jovan.maharaj
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Custom properties on Isometric

Good day All

 

I would like to know if anyone can help me with displaying custom properties of a part in an isometric drawing.
An example would be having a custom property for a support so that we could have a repeatable tag for it.

I have tried making properties in the catalog editor, spec editor, in plant 3d, the only success I've had is with vanilla properties.

Any ideas or suggestions that could help me?

Thank you in advance. ๐Ÿ™‚

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Message 2 of 13
h_eger
in reply to: jovan.maharaj

Dear @jovan.maharaj ,

 

Can you please show me pictures of what you mean by your example?

An example would be having a custom property for a support so that we could have a repeatable tag for it.

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Message 3 of 13
jovan.maharaj
in reply to: h_eger

In most cases, we often try to design typical secondary pipe supports and label the primaries with the support number, however the default tag for plant 3d doesn't allow for duplicate tags, and our isometrics require this support number on them.

 

Currently i have the "weight" property set in the isoconfig.xml to display on the isometric with the support number, see attached isometric.

 

Is it possible to use a custom property ( "Support_Number"; see attached image) in project setup, and have it show in the isometrics.

 

 

Message 4 of 13
h_eger
in reply to: jovan.maharaj

If this is what you mean, it will be difficult as we cannot accommodate a 2-line text in the Isometric TAG.

07-10-_2022_14-16-19.jpg

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Message 5 of 13
jovan.maharaj
in reply to: h_eger

Yess its the triangles. 

I honestly don't mind if its a single line text. Ive bee trying to figure this out so long, anything would be fine ๐Ÿ™‚

I just basically need to get a tag on the supports, in the iso, and be able to have duplicate tags in the 3d model.

 

I really appreciate the feedback so far ๐Ÿ™‚

 

 

Message 6 of 13
h_eger
in reply to: jovan.maharaj

I think we need to talk in more detail to understand the way you work, to see if this is feasible in Plant 3D.
why do you need double TAGs?
This is what Plant 3D wants to avoid.

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Message 7 of 13
jabowabo
in reply to: jovan.maharaj


@jovan.maharaj wrote:

Is it possible to use a custom property ( "Support_Number"; see attached image) in project setup, and have it show in the isometrics.


You can use your custom property - you just need to make sure you add it to your iso.atr file under 'BOM-ATTRIBUTES' like below:

jabowabo_0-1665153582159.png

 

It is possible (but a little complicated) to have multiple lines in your annotation as well. You'll need to make the block attribute to be multiline:

jabowabo_6-1665154786099.png

 

 

Then insert "\P" in your property value wherever you want the line to break. I do this with a calculated property that stitches two properties together with the line break like below.

 

jabowabo_2-1665154010411.png

 

The calculated property will show like this:

 

jabowabo_1-1665153946665.png

Set up your annotation in the isoconfig.xml file:

jabowabo_4-1665154495862.png

 

And the result is this:

jabowabo_3-1665154428231.png

 

 

Message 8 of 13
jovan.maharaj
in reply to: h_eger

I defiantly agree with the fact that tags should be unique. However there is certain cases where a duplicate would make sense, in my opinion.

The company I work for is in charge of doing plant layouts, the piping, the required steel supports, and arrangement drawings.

Once our rough piping routes are established, we start doing pipe supports, where we are responsible for doing the pipe shoe/ clamp, the 3d model of the steel and then the detail drawing of said support. We label them as "S1", "S2", etc. Generally speaking we try to make steel pipe supports as typical or as similar as we can, so that we have less drawings, and to take some of the pressure of the contractors in charge of fabrication, and more often than not we require multiple of the same steel support.

The problem is that, say we require 5  "S1" supports, we would need to be able to tag the pipe shoe or clamp, as "S1" on 5 different items, in the 3d model so that when we generate the isometric there is less manual work involved.

 

As a temporary work around, I have been using the weight property, that's available in plant 3d, and created a component scheme in the isoconfig xml. which looks something like this...

" <ComponentScheme Name="PipeSupport" AnnotationStyle="STriangle" Format="S\P{0}" Enabled="true" Alignment="FlatHorizontal" LeaderStyle="Always" Filter="Support" Fields="WEIGHT" />"

 

I  definitely understand why duplicate tags should not be a thing. However is it at all possible to instead have all custom properties, made in the project setup in plant 3d,  available in the isoconfig.xml or have a method to import them into the xml.

 

 

Message 9 of 13
jovan.maharaj
in reply to: jabowabo

So I did try the iso.atr, however I'm uncertain what it would start with, in the picture above its " EngneeringItems." followed by the property name. So if I made property that's only available for supports, would I still go with "EngineeringItems." followed by the property name or would I use something else?
Message 10 of 13
jabowabo
in reply to: jovan.maharaj


@jovan.maharaj wrote:
So I did try the iso.atr, however I'm uncertain what it would start with, in the picture above its " EngneeringItems." followed by the property name. So if I made property that's only available for supports, would I still go with "EngineeringItems." followed by the property name or would I use something else?

Yes, like "EngineeringItems.MyCustomProperty".

Message 11 of 13
jovan.maharaj
in reply to: jabowabo

This definitely works. Really appreciate it.

I did find that if you need a multi-line property, its also possible to set it up in the component scheme, in the iso.config, without having to join them with plantdefinecalcpropetries.

Message 12 of 13
support7YX6Q
in reply to: h_eger

Hello,

 

I'm trying to get a custom property named "SpecificationTag" to appear on the face of the isometric in Plant 3D 2023. I have added it via the Project setup but it's not coming through to the isometric.

 

Any ideas?

 

Thank You.

Mark

Message 13 of 13

Hi Mark

 

Have you tried adding "SpecificationTag" to the iso.atr and defining it's annotation in the isoconfig.xml?

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