EastCoast CAD

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EastCoast CAD

davids
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 I am having issues with EastCoast CAD into Navis Manage.  The refresh time is ridiculous.  It appears that the Duct part of this program contains so much information that it takes forever to write an .nwc from the .dwg.  Is there any settings in Navis that can be selected/unselected that would stop the transfer of the massive amount of data that is attached to the duct and slowing/crashing the Navis program? 

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S.Jebakumar
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Hi @davids,

 

If you have few more services apart from Ducting in the same file then try to separate individual services

and append in Navisworks this could help

or else try to play with these options editor settings  as shown in Image 1.

 

Regards,

Jebakumar S

Regards,
Jebakumar
BIM Specialist
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davids
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I am sorry but I didn't receive image 1 and would like to have a look at it if you could send it again. The duct is always modeled separately then any of our other systems.

Regards,

David Sasser
Hydro-Temp Mechanical, Inc.
28465 SW Boberg Rd, Wilsonville, OR 97070
(503) 582-8525 - office
(503) 582-1914 - fax

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S.Jebakumar
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Hi @davids,

 

Am pasting the image which is still attached and you are not able to see it for some reason.

 

 

i hope this helps.

 

Regards,

Jebakumar

Regards,
Jebakumar
BIM Specialist
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Anonymous
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Try using wblock and select only your obects, save to a new file. Cuts the file size down greatly.

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Keith.Brown
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EastCoast Cad uses property sets to store their information. The property sets are bloated and alot of information can be removed if you do not use them.

You can also try to have navisworks not convert the property sets. You can do this in your day to day work and when creating a final navisworks file turn them back on.
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davids
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How do I get Navis to not convert the property sets? Is there an option in the menu for this?

Regards,

David Sasser
Hydro-Temp Mechanical, Inc.
28465 SW Boberg Rd, Wilsonville, OR 97070
(503) 582-8525 - office
(503) 582-1914 - fax

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David, 

 

Try unchecking the boxes in the Option Editor_File Reader_Dwg/DXF_Convert Object Properties, this should help with the load time.  

 

 

 

Convert Object Properties.png

 

 

 

 

 

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davids
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Thanks I'll try it

Regards,
The Sassers
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Anonymous
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Don't know if this helped the OP but it sure helped me out.  Thanks!

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Anonymous
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I know this thread is old, but for anybody using EastCoast CAD CAM I hope this helps.  My process for making a model to place into Navis or BIM is the following:

1.  Create a layer state that includes only the duct, equipment, clearances, grills, and whatever else you have modeled in that you want in Navis.

2.  Once the layer state is applied, run WBLOCK and select all items you want to include.  I usually just select all and then WBLOCK. Save WBLOCK as a new file.

3.  Open the WBLOCK model.  PURGE all items that can be purged.  Run -PURGE to purge all of the regapps.

4.  I usually run overkill also just to confirm I don't have any duplicates.

5.  Then the most important step in all of this is to run DUCTSCHEDULEDATA, then D for detach, then say ALL and hit enter.  What takes Navis so long is loading all of the property sets as mentioned in previous replies.  Running this command removes ALL of the data from the duct, allowing load times in Navis to be a fraction of the time it takes when loading a model with all of the data still attached.

6.  Obviously save the drawing, I usually rill run AUDIT before saving but it isn't always necessary.  I just want my drawings to be as clean as possible.

 

Also copy times from one drawing to another is reduced when you detach the data and once it has been copied into the drawing ATTACH of the data once again.  This will attach all of the property sets that correspond to each piece. 

 

I know that this method is effective, since I am usually working with very large jobs.  I can place a 90MB model with only duct into navis and it loads in about 60 seconds.  Also, the amount of RAM and CPU clock speed will effect performance, but it will still load within a decent time if you detach all the duct data.

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