Rotating 2D Model Space "view" / Rotating "ortho"

[Anonymous]

I'm working on a map (north is up). It fits better on an 11 X 17 sheet if it's tilted a bit, which I can do in a layout viewport.

I'd like to be able to also tilt (rotate? reorient?) the map in model space so it fits on the screen easier (and looks the same as in the tilted viewports)

How do I do this? (I just want it to look tilted, but not have any of the coordinates change, not actually rotate any objects, etc.)

I've been looking for some widget or some command that will tell me how many degrees the model space view is tilted, and that would allow me to input "23 degrees" or something, but I can't find it.

ALSO  (bonus question  .  .  .  ) if I work in the "tilted" model space, is there a way to set ortho so that it doesn't tilt with the map? (so that even if the map is tilted, I can draw a rectangle that is straight "up/down left/right" on my screen.

Thanks for your help,

David

AutoCAD Map 3D 2010/2011

[Anonymous]

Is there a lisp that does next: when we set rectangle from the model in layout horizontal, positions the top left edge of the rectangle to the top left edge of the viewport?

[dmitrijus]

Hello, do you know what is alternative to dview twist on autocad 2021 ? It doesnt work as i use to on autocad 2010. Any idea? 

thanks 

[AllenJessup]

I don't see any difference in 2021.1 same command as in years past. Some people use a UCS. There are a lot of other suggestions in this thread.

[dmitrijus]

I am using autocad LT 2021
I just realised that dview > twist - doesn't exist on LT version.
I am trying to find the way to solve my problem as XREF is all over the show ...... before I use to move all drawings on original file by opening xref and rotating to the position I need to - however original drawing then is rotated and let say elevation goes from left to right not from top to bottom. Does it make sense or shall create a new tread with pictures ?

[AllenJessup]

I'd suggest you start a new thread in the AutoCAD LT forum. They'll have more experience dealing with this.

[dmitrijus]

Thank you Sir!