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ODCLASS - a tool based on Object Data for drawing, for defining characteristics

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АлексЮстасу
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ODCLASS - a tool based on Object Data for drawing, for defining characteristics

ODCLASS is an attempt to develop the idea of ​​Feature (Object) classes for dwg Map/Civil 3D based on Object Data. Since Autodesk stopped supporting Feature (Object) classes already in 2008-2010, there was nothing left to do but how to do it from scratch.

ODCLASS is a tool for organizing object drawing, for defining the characteristics (attributes) of objects in dwg.
Creating a tool for dwg is a conscious choice to use all the performance of CAD, it is a tool for topographers, cartographers, for those who draw, create maps.
It turned out to be both more powerful and more universal, at the same time got rid of the main disadvantages of the Feature (Object) classes. Plus, the ability to develop themselves.

ODCLASS works with any AutoCAD primitives, incl. with objects of vertical applications.

ODCLASS gives the best effect with ODEDIT.
Loading the usual _APPLOAD:
odclass_demo_OD_2011-12_32b.arx - https://yadi.sk/d/LGGRQQoczRjXIw
odclass_demo_OD_2011-12_64b.arx - https://yadi.sk/d/a_VgX0zjUOlvxw
odclass_demo_OD_2013-14_32b.arx - https://yadi.sk/d/qP9sXw0GUAJXsA
odclass_demo_OD_2013-14_64b.arx - https://yadi.sk/d/zg4Q9ULC22lM4A
odclass_demo_OD_2015-16_32b.arx - https://yadi.sk/d/EoZwnhgbL1bGxQ
odclass_demo_OD_2015-16_64b.arx - https://yadi.sk/d/NDCPetmwLCj3sQ
odclass_demo_OD_2017_64b.arx - https://yadi.sk/d/sOz_C7QEWgvQvA
odclass_demo_OD_2018_64b.arx - https://yadi.sk/d/fSm74ICDWMSyHg
odclass_demo_OD_2019_64b.arx - https://yadi.sk/d/Kw1JfzXEDoJArw
Open the ODCLASS window with the ODCLASS_GUI command.
So far, only a brief description:
ODCLASS_general_about.htm - https://yadi.sk/d/4cojZ22vuetN8Q
ODCLASS_general_about.pdf - https://yadi.sk/i/jNyU81V7aOYBzQ
And for now only model examples of definition files:
ODCLASS_sample_Parcel - https://yadi.sk/d/DB7jY4HbPKuvSA - a hypothetical example for the "parcel".
ODCLASS_sample_Pipe - https://yadi.sk/d/5lk0KoAWEKvIoQ - a hypothetical example for 3 dimensional elements of pipe.
ODCLASS_sample_Primitives - https://yadi.sk/d/H4pSnZWnPKOliQ - an example of the description of various primitives with various drawing parameters.

In an empty dwg load File-->Load Description text file-example, and draw something from the object menu, etc. AutoCAD files from the examples keep closed-they are the source of resources. You can try to edit description text files - change names, drawing parameters, etc.
Try to create your own description file by analogy and copypasted content, try using ODCLASS_TEMPLATE for his exemplary representative dwg.

 


-- Alexander, private person, pacifist, english only with translator 🙂 --

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Message 2 of 19

Fixed:

1. drawing in all versions from 2011 to 2019 is active until direct cancellation,

2. ODCLASS_TEMPLATE creates a description files in UTF-8 with BOM - fully readable in all versions from 2011 to 2019.

 

Description added:

ODCLASS_description_en.htm - https://yadi.sk/d/3-tPHqGQtCTvXg
ODCLASS_description_en.pdf - https://yadi.sk/i/uTt6zPw1JhlmZg

 

odclass_demo_OD_2011-12_32b.arx - https://yadi.sk/d/IMIF2IjJvQlWNQ
odclass_demo_OD_2011-12_64b.arx - https://yadi.sk/d/SkOpZRjGsPmP9g
odclass_demo_OD_2013-14_32b.arx - https://yadi.sk/d/qdVc3Z0xzu702Q
odclass_demo_OD_2013-14_64b.arx - https://yadi.sk/d/zgEiCjvrF56Taw
odclass_demo_OD_2015-16_32b.arx - https://yadi.sk/d/mqy1fS9rxYTGYg
odclass_demo_OD_2015-16_64b.arx - https://yadi.sk/d/1Vrpkv6jmMh94w
odclass_demo_OD_2017_64b.arx - https://yadi.sk/d/zGwEApHA4CAI2w
odclass_demo_OD_2018_64b.arx - https://yadi.sk/d/ZhG2iZ9dokmeiw
odclass_demo_OD_2019_64b.arx - https://yadi.sk/d/O1QjonTrXyf-uQ


-- Alexander, private person, pacifist, english only with translator 🙂 --

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Message 3 of 19

Hello Alexander

 

Thanks for your multiple efforts on ODs for ACAD MAP (or CIVIL) ! 

 

You try to finish and improve features which have been initiated by Autodesk ...

 

MAP Feature Class began with a confidential Release called MAP R6 based on ACAD 2002...

 

Go on it's beautiful !

 

Regards, Patrice

 

Patrice ( Supporting Troops ) - Autodesk Expert Elite
If you are happy with my answer please mark "Accept as Solution" and if very happy please give me a Kudos (Felicitations) - Thanks

Patrice BRAUD

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Message 4 of 19

Thank you, Patrice!

 

It is very nice to receive support and such a good assessment from you - from a specialist with such experience!

Yes, I want to realize the significant, but not revealed potential of the ideas of Feature (Object) classes and OD.
First of all, I myself need all these opportunities in my daily work. With great pleasure, I have been doing topographic-cartographic projects in ODCLASS + ODEDIT for 4 years that are more difficult or slower or impossible to do by other means.
I think that the best use of ODCLASS + ODEDIT is projects where it is more convenient to draw in dwg and where dwg is used. And small projects.
ODCLASS + ODEDIT will help primarily those who themselves draw, create plans, maps, because for this you need CAD tools.

 


-- Alexander, private person, pacifist, english only with translator 🙂 --

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Message 5 of 19


@braudpat wrote:

 

Thanks for your multiple efforts on ODs for ACAD MAP (or CIVIL) ! 

 


... but you have not been writing about OD for a long time on the forum.

Have you already stopped using OD?

 


-- Alexander, private person, pacifist, english only with translator 🙂 --

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Message 6 of 19

Hello 

 

Please Remind that I was an user of the ADE Module on ACAD R12 : the precursor of the drawing group/query Feature of MAP R13/R14/20XX...

 

I use ODs since about 20 years and yet every day!

 

During my French MAP Trainings, I give Lisp routines + the link to your NICE ODEDIT Tool...

 

Please go on , thanks in advance...

 

Regards, Patrice 

 

Patrice ( Supporting Troops ) - Autodesk Expert Elite
If you are happy with my answer please mark "Accept as Solution" and if very happy please give me a Kudos (Felicitations) - Thanks

Patrice BRAUD

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Message 7 of 19

You are clearly one of the most experienced professionals in AutoCAD! Or the most experienced! 🙂

 

It may not be obvious that ODCLASS will make using OD more efficient. But it is so!
In ODCLASS, attaching-creating the required OD is automatic. ODCLASS has explanations for the OD fields - what these characteristics are for. In ODCLASS, there is an input of values in the OD fields with a choice from lists and taking into account allowable ranges. ODCLASS has rounding values, checking values. And so forth.
ODCLASS + ODEDIT complement each other, and make work much more convenient.
For example, in the ODEDIT_TABLE table window, you can sequentially view the records in OD, and, at the same time, enter-edit values ​​in the ODCLASS_PROPERTIES window. Or sort the values ​​in ODEDIT_TABLE, select the ones you need and edit them in ODCLASS_PROPERTIES. Etc.  (Alas, after editing the values ​​in the ODCLASS_PROPERTIES window, you need to do a refresh to display them in the ODEDIT_TABLE window).

 


-- Alexander, private person, pacifist, english only with translator 🙂 --

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Message 8 of 19

Hello 

 

French humour: Without the right Lisp / ARX / DotNet routines, ODs  on MAP (or CIVIL) means Object data very Disapointed !!

 

Regards, Patrice

 

Patrice ( Supporting Troops ) - Autodesk Expert Elite
If you are happy with my answer please mark "Accept as Solution" and if very happy please give me a Kudos (Felicitations) - Thanks

Patrice BRAUD

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Message 9 of 19

Finally published ODCLASS in the App Store - ODCLASS based on Object Data (OD).

There a better English translation of the ODCLASS_general_about description.

The other day we hope to publish in the App Store version of ODCLASS based on Xrecord - for any AutoCAD. This will allow to expand the range of service providers in data collection.

 


-- Alexander, private person, pacifist, english only with translator 🙂 --

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Message 10 of 19

New slightly revised version + added and corrected descriptions:

 

odclass_trial_OD_2011-12_32b.arx - https://yadi.sk/d/V8HoIOobC5H6KA
odclass_trial_OD_2011-12_64b.arx - https://yadi.sk/d/ZZPwjr2puWS-Kw
odclass_trial_OD_2013-14_32b.arx - https://yadi.sk/d/5wrv8msWCedifQ
odclass_trial_OD_2013-14_64b.arx - https://yadi.sk/d/nCA4j5jcgA7sOw
odclass_trial_OD_2015-16_32b.arx - https://yadi.sk/d/GvoO3F-8NaQWjg
odclass_trial_OD_2015-16_64b.arx - https://yadi.sk/d/_facsi4L4VLTIA
odclass_trial_OD_2017_64b.arx - https://yadi.sk/d/yR34nCA5CYtdJQ
odclass_trial_OD_2018_64b.arx - https://yadi.sk/d/-zApKpUjtkvKxA
odclass_trial_OD_2019_64b.arx - https://yadi.sk/d/NCjrq8Jm7uqcbw

 

Description:
ODCLASS_description_en.htm - https://yadi.sk/d/Fn3n_ZsYxB6PjQ
ODCLASS_description_en.pdf - https://yadi.sk/i/jMyIoCxSe-RjeA
ODCLASS_general_about.htm - https://yadi.sk/d/6IuaLJw_kxVxJA
ODCLASS_general_about.pdf - https://yadi.sk/i/8y1W1uGKPxCcYQ
ODCLASS_creating_object_definition_files.htm - https://yadi.sk/d/eW4Mrb-RLmXrlQ
ODCLASS_creating_object_definition_files.pdf - https://yadi.sk/i/VYsBoiWFk5kNbQ
ODCLASS_definition_file_structure_R-4.htm - https://yadi.sk/d/Chs5eIwNO0qtbw
ODCLASS_definition_file_structure_R-4.pdf - https://yadi.sk/i/f01WC_NgAIIYZA

 

You can _APPLOAD the desired arx, you can replace arx in C:\ProgramData\Autodesk\ApplicationPlugins\Alexander Sharov ODEDIT for Object Data.bundle\Contents if installed from the App Store.

 


-- Alexander, private person, pacifist, english only with translator 🙂 --

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Message 11 of 19

Fixed a block drawing bug in 2019, a few other drawbacks.
Slightly corrected data examples.

 

odclass_trial_OD_2011-12_32b.arx - https://yadi.sk/d/iuMbchL-_ArQjw

odclass_trial_OD_2011-12_64b.arx - https://yadi.sk/d/jvrSfzqdQmh-Ow
odclass_trial_OD_2013-14_32b.arx - https://yadi.sk/d/jm5MZ4MsTenkZg
odclass_trial_OD_2013-14_64b.arx - https://yadi.sk/d/MQX1hHWcQDTwOA
odclass_trial_OD_2015-16_32b.arx - https://yadi.sk/d/TE4wq3VgSbjIEQ
odclass_trial_OD_2015-16_64b.arx - https://yadi.sk/d/mtnBl4kqQYpmmA
odclass_trial_OD_2017_64b.arx - https://yadi.sk/d/-TCGGQzCtOIYOw
odclass_trial_OD_2018_64b.arx - https://yadi.sk/d/-qDuoviC_kw8bg
odclass_trial_OD_2019_64b.arx - https://yadi.sk/d/Uv49brt91OJgxA

 

ODCLASS_example.zip - https://yadi.sk/d/wHVFbN1AhUmZiQ

 

In the App Store is not yet a corrected version.

 


-- Alexander, private person, pacifist, english only with translator 🙂 --

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Message 12 of 19

There is a full analog - ODCLASS based on Xrecord for basic AutoCAD, for any vertical application to AutoCAD. Will publish soon and ODEDIT based on Xrecord.
Instead OD are used Xrecord basic AutoCAD.
This can expand the number of firms and freelancers that can be hired to draw, create maps.

 


-- Alexander, private person, pacifist, english only with translator 🙂 --

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Message 13 of 19

Recently in the App Store updated ODCLASS based on Object Data (OD)

https://apps.autodesk.com/CIV3D/en/Detail/Index?id=3406668616598862038&appLang=en&os=Win64 - fixed some non-critical errors.

And today published the ODCLASS based on Xrecord - for all AutoCAD

https://apps.autodesk.com/ACD/en/Detail/Index?id=3881500757820393755&appLang=en&os=Win64.

 

Published 6 months!
I hope that we will publish ODEDIT based on Xrecord faster.

 

ODCLASS + ODEDIT based on Xrecord allows you to organize data collection in any AutoCAD, the same data as the means of Map 3D.

 


-- Alexander, private person, pacifist, english only with translator 🙂 --

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Message 14 of 19

Hello Alexander, respect for your creative expand 🙂

Message 15 of 19

Merci beaucoup! Smiley Very Happy

Your support helps me a lot!

But you are the only expert who approves of these efforts.

 

In Map 3D, there are mostly those who use the existing data. ODCLASS will help them, but they have other tools.
ODCLASS may be of most interest to those who self draw maps and collect primary data. Or those who complement the available data to a form suitable for GIS.
But there are almost no such users on the Map 3D forum now. Because they are from Map 3D long gone?
And now they will not be able to find out that now there are suitable opportunities for Map 3D or even for basic AutoCAD.

 


-- Alexander, private person, pacifist, english only with translator 🙂 --

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Message 16 of 19

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Because they are from Map 3D long gone?

because all users have become super programmers and have programmed their autocad so that they control their program just by voice: D

Message 17 of 19
Barzdil
in reply to: Barzdil

I guess most have found the right alternatives for themselves, just think for the sake of saving time, because they are full of software add-ons and understand what exactly you need and whether those accessories will satisfy your needs, take a lot of time and if those accessories do not work or do not work suitable, then re-search for major enhancements, extensions, and more. 🙂

Message 18 of 19

Video on the creation and use of an ODCLASS description file using the example of Valid circular AC 150/5300-18B, Federal Aviation Administration (FAA), U.S. - https://youtu.be/eHav5ZfKxGM

 

The circular defines the composition of the objects (Feature Classes), their characteristics (Attributes) and their possible values for filling Airports GIS (AGIS) FAA.
ODCLASS allows you to create in dwg objects with the desired graphical properties with the definition of the values of specified characteristics - all in accordance with AC 150 / 5300-18B, FAA.

ODCLASS allows you to select objects in dvg, manage their display. Etc.


This video is for the first acquaintance with ODCLASS.
The video has subtitles in google-english.
Links and files to download with this example for self-use in this topic - .https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-map-3d-forum/about-standards-with-object-data/m-p/8894182#M54....

 


-- Alexander, private person, pacifist, english only with translator 🙂 --

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Message 19 of 19

Two more videos for the FAA standard:

1. definition of graphic elements dwg as objects AC 150/5300-18B, assigning the necessary graphic properties to objects - https://youtu.be/idSysLYgTxw,
2. AC 150/5300-18B compliance checks and error correction methods -https://youtu.be/Nd5ZBg3SOfM.

There are subtitles on googlenglish. 🙂

 


-- Alexander, private person, pacifist, english only with translator 🙂 --

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