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Anonymous
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点スタイルは円に×が書いてあるものを使っているのですが、

印刷すると薄くて見づらいです。

点の濃さは濃くならないのでしょうか?

みなさん薄いまま見ていらっしゃるのでしょうか?

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N.H1971
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Advisor

印刷スタイルはctb・stbのどちらを使用されていますか?

私の環境(Win7 64bit AutoCAD2016LT)では、ctb(色従属印刷スタイルデーブル)を使用した場合は、

使用した色により、線の太さ、濃さがコントロールされて出力されています。

 

点オブジェクトの画層や色などを確認してみてはいかがでしょうか。



H N
AUG-JP Staff
AUG-JP

AV4742302
Advisor
Advisor

[点]は、そもそも印刷に向けた機能では無い様な気がします。

 

例えば、ある線分やポリラインを[MEASURE]や[DIVIDE]のコマンドで分割した際に分割点はどこか。を表示する程度の

(モデル空間上での)マーカーの役割程度な気がします。

 

どうしても。と言うのであれば、似たような図形を御自身で作成して「ブロック」図形として登録し、配置した方が扱いもし易いとおもいますが・・・。

 

如何でしょう。

 

 

・・・とコメント作成しましたが、先の方がコメントされているように[印刷スタイル]を割り当てて印刷すると濃く(太く)印刷されていました。

点を配置する際の[現在画層]の線幅、印刷時に印刷スタイルを使って印刷 を確認してはと思います。

Anonymous
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返信ありがとうございます。

印刷スタイルはctbです。

点を打っている画層を分け、画層での線の太さを太くしたり、点を選んで線の太さを太くしたりしましたが駄目なのです…

 

色は赤、水色、オレンジ・・と点ごとに色を分けて打ってあるのですが、どれも同じ薄さです。

 

何か他に設定できることはあるでしょうか?

どうぞよろしくお願い致します。

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Anonymous
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返信ありがとうございます。

そうなのですね…

仕事で座標を読んでおりまして、ここの座標です、という印なので

細かい図面に薄い点がたくさんという今の状況がどうしても不便です・・・

ブロックで作ってしまうというのはなかなか難しそうですが、このまま調整できなかったら試してみようと思います!

 

[印刷スタイル]を割り当てて印刷すると濃く(太く)印刷されていました、というのは具体的にどこをどう設定されたのでしょうか??

 

初心者なもので・・すみませんが詳しく説明していただけたら有りがたいです

どうぞよろしくお願い致します。

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N.H1971
Advisor
Advisor

どういう印刷スタイルを使われているかで、アドバイスが変わります。

 

>画層での線の太さを太くしたり、点を選んで線の太さを太くしたり

これをされている場合、印刷スタイルはstbの拡張子があるものを使っていますか?

ctbを使っている場合は、その印刷スタイルテーブルの該当の色にて「オブジェクトの線の太さを使用」を

選択している場合にしか、上記の方法では太く印刷されません。

ctbの場合、「monochrome.ctb」なら、全ての色について「黒」で印刷され「オブジェクトの線の太さを使用」となっているので

反映されるはずです。

 

>色は赤、水色、オレンジ・・と点ごとに色を分けて打って

この場合、ctbの印刷スタイルを使用しているとすると、それぞれの色に対して、適切な太さが設定された印刷スタイルですか?

「Screening **%.ctb」の場合、オブジェクトの色を使用する設定なので、白黒で印刷するとオレンジや水色などは薄くなる可能性があります。

 

ご自分の使用されている印刷スタイルテーブルを確認してみてください。

 



H N
AUG-JP Staff
AUG-JP

Anonymous
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Screening 100%.ctbの印刷スタイルを使用しており、カラー印刷もできています。
印刷スタイルテーブルの色ごとの項目を確認いたしましたが、「オブジェクトの線の太さを使用」となっていました。
図面内の他の線は太くなっています。。。

ちなみにstbの拡張子の印刷スタイルは出てきません。

よろしくお願い致します。
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AV4742302
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解決済み

配置した[点]は何色で配置されているのか、オブジェクトプロパティや画層プロパティで確認します。

[印刷]ダイアログの[印刷スタイルテーブル]のプルダウンで使用しているctbと隣のボタンを押して、

[印刷スタイルテーブルエディター]で[点]の色を確認して、「線の太さ」を選びます。→保存して閉じる。

ctbを選択している事、[印刷スタイルを使って印刷]にチェックが入っている事。を確認してプレビューを確認します。

[点]が太くなっていればOK

 

・・・という手順でしょうか。

N.H1971
Advisor
Advisor

添付のaclt.ctbで印刷する場合、赤色(色番号1)で描かれていれば、指定の太さで印刷されるはずなんですが・・・

それがそうならないのでしょうか。



H N
AUG-JP Staff
AUG-JP

Anonymous
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お世話になっております。
丁寧な手順を有難うございます。
画像を確認しながら、手順通りに試してみたところ、点を太く表示することは出来たのですが、点以外に赤で書いてある線も太くなってしまいました…
元々図面内のほかの線は太さや線種等変えることが出来ており、点のみが調整できない状態でしたので、大きく前進ではあるのですが、何が引っかかって点だけがこのようになってしまうのか…
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Anonymous
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お世話になっております。
はい、aclt.ctbで印刷もだめでした。
点だけがどうしても太くなりません・・・
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Miyuki.N
Alumni
Alumni

こんにちは。

 

他のユーザーの方からアドバイスで現象について動きがあるようですが、可能であれば現象の確認できる簡単なサンプル図面を

添付してもらえるとより動作確認がしやすくなると思いますので検討してみてください。

 

印刷スタイルテーブルはデフォルトを使用して再現するとのことですが、印刷オプションに何かチェックを入れている場合は念のため

その情報も教えてください。

 

この現象は、印刷時のみでなくプレビューや「DWG To PDF.pc3」でも確認できるかも確認してみてください。

 

ご確認をよろしくお願いします。



Miyuki Nakashima
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Anonymous
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こんにちは。

印刷した図面を、写真を撮って添付するということでしょうか?

『 印刷スタイルテーブルはデフォルトを使用して再現する』というのはよく分からないのですが、印刷オプションは【線の太さを印刷に反映】と【印刷スタイルを使って印刷】の2か所しかチェックは入っていません。

プレビュー、「DWG To PDF,pc3」では、特別太く指定していない他の線の太さと同様に見えています。

よろしくお願い致します。
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Miyuki.N
Alumni
Alumni

こんにちは、ご連絡ありがとうございます。

 

現象が確認できるサンプルの DWG ファイルを添付していただくと、他のユーザーの方の環境でも
動作確認をしやすいこともあるので、可能であれば添付を検討してみてください。

 

印刷スタイルテーブルは、新規に作成したものではなく、acadlt.ctb や Screening 100%.ctb を
使用しても再現するという状況ですね?

 

また、プレビューや「DWG To PDF.pc3」では再現せず印刷時のみ点が薄く印刷されるとのことですが
プリンタードライバーの再インストールなどでも改善しないでしょうか。
参考までに使用しているプリンターは何かも教えてもらえますか?

 

ご確認をよろしくお願いします。



Miyuki Nakashima
Forum Specialist

Anonymous
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添付してみました。

確認できますでしょうか。。。

 

印刷スタイルテーブルは、新規でなく、Screening 100%.ctb を使用しております。

 

使用しているプリンターはCanon iR-ADV C2230です。

 

プレビューなど確認時は、一定の太さ以下の線は画面上で区別されない、と記憶していたのですが

違いましたでしょうか?

今までいくつかの図面を見てきてもプレビュー時には太く見える線が印刷時には

実際に指定していた細さできちんと印刷されているといった事があった気がします。

 

今回は画層ごと線の太さを変更したり、モデル画面で点を指定して個別に太さを変更したりしても

印刷時に設定している線の太さは無視で印刷時に点のみが薄く出てしまうので

ドライバに不備があるとは思ってもみなかったのですが…

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AV4742302
Advisor
Advisor
解決済み

この状態で進めるのであれば、太くしたい赤はインデックスカラーの10番、細線で良いなら1番のままと色を変更して、

Screening 100%.ctbを開いて10番の線幅を0.65mmとして印刷してはどうでしょうか。

(印刷した結果では赤色の違いは殆ど見分けられないと思いますので・・・)

同様に、似た色で[点]ごとに.ctbの太さを変更すれば[点]にも太さを付けられると思います。

 

 

・・・ただ、白い紙に黄色や水色の要素を印刷して、OKが出るんでしょうか。

そっちの方が自分は気になりますが・・・。

 

Anonymous
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そうですね、おっしゃるように少し違う色に設定するのが現実的なようです・・・
ただ今後も点を使うたびにこの対応というのは少し残念です。

ご指摘の点の色につきましては、もはや濃くならないので何色でも同じだったのですが(笑)線を太くする時に調整します。
細やかなご配慮有難うございます。

AV4742302
Advisor
Advisor
解決済み

解決にして頂いた様ですが、心残りもある様ですので・・・

 

LT2017で、

線の太さを2mmにした画層を用意して[点]を配置。

適当に配置した[点]へ線の太さを2mmとした場合。

 

どちらもこのままで印刷のプレビューでは太くなりませんでした。

 

(上記操作で太くなるのが正常な振舞いなのか、配置した初期値のままが正常なのかはAutodeskの開発した人に聞かないと分かりません。)

 

個人の勝手な想像ですが、[点スタイル管理]で「スクリーンに相対するサイズ」で配置すると、点の大きさが固定されません、

これに追随させて太さを持たせてしまうと、ズーム率が変わるたびに大きさと太さを更新させなければならなくなって、重たい機能となってしまう(と思う)為に太さは[点]自体には持てないようにしたのではないかと思います。

 

 

現状では点に太さを持たせられませんから、今回の様に印刷時に色従属設定で太く印刷するか、STBファイルで太さを指定して印刷するかとなると思います。・・・

 

やはり太さや大きさを決めて配置するのであれば、図形をブロックに登録してから配置した方が早いんじゃないですかね。

Anonymous
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遅くなってしまい申し訳ありません。
色々とご提案頂き有難うございます。
まだまだ初心者で使い方などもわからないことが多く、大変勉強になりました。
元々解決にするつもりではいたのですが、私が押す前に、どなたかが解決済みにされていました。。。
とにもかくにも更なるご提案を頂き有難うございました。
ブロック登録や印刷時の設定などここで教えて頂いた策で、臨機応変に対応しようと思います^^

79447
Advocate
Advocate

解決済ですが

 

点スタイル管理で ”."点から”○”丸にして 尺度を調整すればどうでしょうか?

 

そもそもpintは作図補助する機能では?

利用する時は 登録図を利用するとかで代用する。

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We use Google Analytics (Web Analytics) to collect data about your behavior on our sites. This may include pages you’ve visited, trials you’ve initiated, videos you’ve played, purchases you’ve made, and your IP address or device ID. We use this data to measure our site performance and evaluate the ease of your online experience, so we can enhance our features. We also use advanced analytics methods to optimize your experience with email, customer support, and sales. Google Analytics (Web Analytics) Privacy Policy
AdWords
We use AdWords to deploy digital advertising on sites supported by AdWords. Ads are based on both AdWords data and behavioral data that we collect while you’re on our sites. The data we collect may include pages you’ve visited, trials you’ve initiated, videos you’ve played, purchases you’ve made, and your IP address or device ID. This information may be combined with data that AdWords has collected from you. We use the data that we provide to AdWords to better customize your digital advertising experience and present you with more relevant ads. AdWords Privacy Policy
Marketo
We use Marketo to send you more timely and relevant email content. To do this, we collect data about your online behavior and your interaction with the emails we send. Data collected may include pages you’ve visited, trials you’ve initiated, videos you’ve played, purchases you’ve made, your IP address or device ID, email open rates, links clicked, and others. We may combine this data with data collected from other sources to offer you improved sales or customer service experiences, as well as more relevant content based on advanced analytics processing. Marketo Privacy Policy
Doubleclick
We use Doubleclick to deploy digital advertising on sites supported by Doubleclick. Ads are based on both Doubleclick data and behavioral data that we collect while you’re on our sites. The data we collect may include pages you’ve visited, trials you’ve initiated, videos you’ve played, purchases you’ve made, and your IP address or device ID. This information may be combined with data that Doubleclick has collected from you. We use the data that we provide to Doubleclick to better customize your digital advertising experience and present you with more relevant ads. Doubleclick Privacy Policy
HubSpot
We use HubSpot to send you more timely and relevant email content. To do this, we collect data about your online behavior and your interaction with the emails we send. Data collected may include pages you’ve visited, trials you’ve initiated, videos you’ve played, purchases you’ve made, your IP address or device ID, email open rates, links clicked, and others. HubSpot Privacy Policy
Twitter
We use Twitter to deploy digital advertising on sites supported by Twitter. Ads are based on both Twitter data and behavioral data that we collect while you’re on our sites. The data we collect may include pages you’ve visited, trials you’ve initiated, videos you’ve played, purchases you’ve made, and your IP address or device ID. This information may be combined with data that Twitter has collected from you. We use the data that we provide to Twitter to better customize your digital advertising experience and present you with more relevant ads. Twitter Privacy Policy
Facebook
We use Facebook to deploy digital advertising on sites supported by Facebook. Ads are based on both Facebook data and behavioral data that we collect while you’re on our sites. The data we collect may include pages you’ve visited, trials you’ve initiated, videos you’ve played, purchases you’ve made, and your IP address or device ID. This information may be combined with data that Facebook has collected from you. We use the data that we provide to Facebook to better customize your digital advertising experience and present you with more relevant ads. Facebook Privacy Policy
LinkedIn
We use LinkedIn to deploy digital advertising on sites supported by LinkedIn. Ads are based on both LinkedIn data and behavioral data that we collect while you’re on our sites. The data we collect may include pages you’ve visited, trials you’ve initiated, videos you’ve played, purchases you’ve made, and your IP address or device ID. This information may be combined with data that LinkedIn has collected from you. We use the data that we provide to LinkedIn to better customize your digital advertising experience and present you with more relevant ads. LinkedIn Privacy Policy
Yahoo! Japan
We use Yahoo! Japan to deploy digital advertising on sites supported by Yahoo! Japan. Ads are based on both Yahoo! Japan data and behavioral data that we collect while you’re on our sites. The data we collect may include pages you’ve visited, trials you’ve initiated, videos you’ve played, purchases you’ve made, and your IP address or device ID. This information may be combined with data that Yahoo! Japan has collected from you. We use the data that we provide to Yahoo! Japan to better customize your digital advertising experience and present you with more relevant ads. Yahoo! Japan Privacy Policy
Naver
We use Naver to deploy digital advertising on sites supported by Naver. Ads are based on both Naver data and behavioral data that we collect while you’re on our sites. The data we collect may include pages you’ve visited, trials you’ve initiated, videos you’ve played, purchases you’ve made, and your IP address or device ID. This information may be combined with data that Naver has collected from you. We use the data that we provide to Naver to better customize your digital advertising experience and present you with more relevant ads. Naver Privacy Policy
Quantcast
We use Quantcast to deploy digital advertising on sites supported by Quantcast. Ads are based on both Quantcast data and behavioral data that we collect while you’re on our sites. The data we collect may include pages you’ve visited, trials you’ve initiated, videos you’ve played, purchases you’ve made, and your IP address or device ID. This information may be combined with data that Quantcast has collected from you. We use the data that we provide to Quantcast to better customize your digital advertising experience and present you with more relevant ads. Quantcast Privacy Policy
Call Tracking
We use Call Tracking to provide customized phone numbers for our campaigns. This gives you faster access to our agents and helps us more accurately evaluate our performance. We may collect data about your behavior on our sites based on the phone number provided. Call Tracking Privacy Policy
Wunderkind
We use Wunderkind to deploy digital advertising on sites supported by Wunderkind. Ads are based on both Wunderkind data and behavioral data that we collect while you’re on our sites. The data we collect may include pages you’ve visited, trials you’ve initiated, videos you’ve played, purchases you’ve made, and your IP address or device ID. This information may be combined with data that Wunderkind has collected from you. We use the data that we provide to Wunderkind to better customize your digital advertising experience and present you with more relevant ads. Wunderkind Privacy Policy
ADC Media
We use ADC Media to deploy digital advertising on sites supported by ADC Media. Ads are based on both ADC Media data and behavioral data that we collect while you’re on our sites. The data we collect may include pages you’ve visited, trials you’ve initiated, videos you’ve played, purchases you’ve made, and your IP address or device ID. This information may be combined with data that ADC Media has collected from you. We use the data that we provide to ADC Media to better customize your digital advertising experience and present you with more relevant ads. ADC Media Privacy Policy
AgrantSEM
We use AgrantSEM to deploy digital advertising on sites supported by AgrantSEM. Ads are based on both AgrantSEM data and behavioral data that we collect while you’re on our sites. The data we collect may include pages you’ve visited, trials you’ve initiated, videos you’ve played, purchases you’ve made, and your IP address or device ID. This information may be combined with data that AgrantSEM has collected from you. We use the data that we provide to AgrantSEM to better customize your digital advertising experience and present you with more relevant ads. AgrantSEM Privacy Policy
Bidtellect
We use Bidtellect to deploy digital advertising on sites supported by Bidtellect. Ads are based on both Bidtellect data and behavioral data that we collect while you’re on our sites. The data we collect may include pages you’ve visited, trials you’ve initiated, videos you’ve played, purchases you’ve made, and your IP address or device ID. This information may be combined with data that Bidtellect has collected from you. We use the data that we provide to Bidtellect to better customize your digital advertising experience and present you with more relevant ads. Bidtellect Privacy Policy
Bing
We use Bing to deploy digital advertising on sites supported by Bing. Ads are based on both Bing data and behavioral data that we collect while you’re on our sites. The data we collect may include pages you’ve visited, trials you’ve initiated, videos you’ve played, purchases you’ve made, and your IP address or device ID. This information may be combined with data that Bing has collected from you. We use the data that we provide to Bing to better customize your digital advertising experience and present you with more relevant ads. Bing Privacy Policy
G2Crowd
We use G2Crowd to deploy digital advertising on sites supported by G2Crowd. Ads are based on both G2Crowd data and behavioral data that we collect while you’re on our sites. The data we collect may include pages you’ve visited, trials you’ve initiated, videos you’ve played, purchases you’ve made, and your IP address or device ID. This information may be combined with data that G2Crowd has collected from you. We use the data that we provide to G2Crowd to better customize your digital advertising experience and present you with more relevant ads. G2Crowd Privacy Policy
NMPI Display
We use NMPI Display to deploy digital advertising on sites supported by NMPI Display. Ads are based on both NMPI Display data and behavioral data that we collect while you’re on our sites. The data we collect may include pages you’ve visited, trials you’ve initiated, videos you’ve played, purchases you’ve made, and your IP address or device ID. This information may be combined with data that NMPI Display has collected from you. We use the data that we provide to NMPI Display to better customize your digital advertising experience and present you with more relevant ads. NMPI Display Privacy Policy
VK
We use VK to deploy digital advertising on sites supported by VK. Ads are based on both VK data and behavioral data that we collect while you’re on our sites. The data we collect may include pages you’ve visited, trials you’ve initiated, videos you’ve played, purchases you’ve made, and your IP address or device ID. This information may be combined with data that VK has collected from you. We use the data that we provide to VK to better customize your digital advertising experience and present you with more relevant ads. VK Privacy Policy
Adobe Target
We use Adobe Target to test new features on our sites and customize your experience of these features. To do this, we collect behavioral data while you’re on our sites. This data may include pages you’ve visited, trials you’ve initiated, videos you’ve played, purchases you’ve made, your IP address or device ID, your Autodesk ID, and others. You may experience a different version of our sites based on feature testing, or view personalized content based on your visitor attributes. Adobe Target Privacy Policy
Google Analytics (Advertising)
We use Google Analytics (Advertising) to deploy digital advertising on sites supported by Google Analytics (Advertising). Ads are based on both Google Analytics (Advertising) data and behavioral data that we collect while you’re on our sites. The data we collect may include pages you’ve visited, trials you’ve initiated, videos you’ve played, purchases you’ve made, and your IP address or device ID. This information may be combined with data that Google Analytics (Advertising) has collected from you. We use the data that we provide to Google Analytics (Advertising) to better customize your digital advertising experience and present you with more relevant ads. Google Analytics (Advertising) Privacy Policy
Trendkite
We use Trendkite to deploy digital advertising on sites supported by Trendkite. Ads are based on both Trendkite data and behavioral data that we collect while you’re on our sites. The data we collect may include pages you’ve visited, trials you’ve initiated, videos you’ve played, purchases you’ve made, and your IP address or device ID. This information may be combined with data that Trendkite has collected from you. We use the data that we provide to Trendkite to better customize your digital advertising experience and present you with more relevant ads. Trendkite Privacy Policy
Hotjar
We use Hotjar to deploy digital advertising on sites supported by Hotjar. Ads are based on both Hotjar data and behavioral data that we collect while you’re on our sites. The data we collect may include pages you’ve visited, trials you’ve initiated, videos you’ve played, purchases you’ve made, and your IP address or device ID. This information may be combined with data that Hotjar has collected from you. We use the data that we provide to Hotjar to better customize your digital advertising experience and present you with more relevant ads. Hotjar Privacy Policy
6 Sense
We use 6 Sense to deploy digital advertising on sites supported by 6 Sense. Ads are based on both 6 Sense data and behavioral data that we collect while you’re on our sites. The data we collect may include pages you’ve visited, trials you’ve initiated, videos you’ve played, purchases you’ve made, and your IP address or device ID. This information may be combined with data that 6 Sense has collected from you. We use the data that we provide to 6 Sense to better customize your digital advertising experience and present you with more relevant ads. 6 Sense Privacy Policy
Terminus
We use Terminus to deploy digital advertising on sites supported by Terminus. Ads are based on both Terminus data and behavioral data that we collect while you’re on our sites. The data we collect may include pages you’ve visited, trials you’ve initiated, videos you’ve played, purchases you’ve made, and your IP address or device ID. This information may be combined with data that Terminus has collected from you. We use the data that we provide to Terminus to better customize your digital advertising experience and present you with more relevant ads. Terminus Privacy Policy
StackAdapt
We use StackAdapt to deploy digital advertising on sites supported by StackAdapt. Ads are based on both StackAdapt data and behavioral data that we collect while you’re on our sites. The data we collect may include pages you’ve visited, trials you’ve initiated, videos you’ve played, purchases you’ve made, and your IP address or device ID. This information may be combined with data that StackAdapt has collected from you. We use the data that we provide to StackAdapt to better customize your digital advertising experience and present you with more relevant ads. StackAdapt Privacy Policy
The Trade Desk
We use The Trade Desk to deploy digital advertising on sites supported by The Trade Desk. Ads are based on both The Trade Desk data and behavioral data that we collect while you’re on our sites. The data we collect may include pages you’ve visited, trials you’ve initiated, videos you’ve played, purchases you’ve made, and your IP address or device ID. This information may be combined with data that The Trade Desk has collected from you. We use the data that we provide to The Trade Desk to better customize your digital advertising experience and present you with more relevant ads. The Trade Desk Privacy Policy
RollWorks
We use RollWorks to deploy digital advertising on sites supported by RollWorks. Ads are based on both RollWorks data and behavioral data that we collect while you’re on our sites. The data we collect may include pages you’ve visited, trials you’ve initiated, videos you’ve played, purchases you’ve made, and your IP address or device ID. This information may be combined with data that RollWorks has collected from you. We use the data that we provide to RollWorks to better customize your digital advertising experience and present you with more relevant ads. RollWorks Privacy Policy

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