How to establish right scale (1:100 for instance) before printing?

How to establish right scale (1:100 for instance) before printing?

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How to establish right scale (1:100 for instance) before printing?

Anonymous
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Have a drawing made by architects which I now have mdified. Measurements are OK in Autocad in meters but how do I provide an output on the printer that are for instance 1:100 scale?

Appreciate any help

Åke

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steven-g
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That depends on a few things. Is the drawing properly set up as metres, you can see the units used in the 'units' command, (but don't change it there) the correct method to change a drawing's units is the '-dwgunits' command which give you a set of prompts to change various values, but I would have to be careful telling you to do that if the drawings are coming from an external source/client if you then need to send copies of the dwg files back.

One really important factor is, what do you consider 1:100 to be, is it

1mm on paper = 100mm on the ground, or

1mm on paper = 100 metres on the ground

so what size paper are you printing to and how big is the area you are printing, it would be much easier to comment if you can post a dwg file so we can see the sizes involved.

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Hi,

Great thanks for your reply. Yes, it is a professional architect that made
the original and I have tried to modify it in front of an rebuild.

Enclosed please find the drawing in dwg.

All measurements are OK in meters so in the drawing 10 mm = 1m. My issue is:

1. How to print a part of the printing i.i the North side of the
building only on an A4 sheet 210x296 mm where 1cm is 1 m in reality. So
select the object and get it out in right scale on A4? The drawing
originally is set as 1:100 on A1 format and 1:200 on A3 format output.
2. Normally a “header” is visible on drawing telling the scale, name
project, dates etc, how is that created?



Really appreciate your help

Åke
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steven-g
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There is nothing attached? But something sounds off 10mm = 1 meter is not normally how I would expect to see a drawing done in meters, it should be 1 unit = 1 meter, it sounds more like the Architect is using Decimeters.

If the plans are set up to print on A1 at 1:100 then you cannot print the same plans on A4 showing the same amount of the drawing at 1:100 you either need to print eight. A4 drawings and stick them together or print the same drawing at 1:800.

But we really do need to see the dwg file to make sure we are talking about the same things.

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OK, I understand. This is new territory for me so I am sorry if I don’t get
it right…anyhow according to my Outbox you should have a 2 MB dwg-file
attached. I enclose again here.

Best regards

Åke
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steven-g
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Nope still no file, you do need to use the web page on the computer where the file is accessible and you should see in your web browser just below where you type your responses an area where you can drag and drop files into the web browser or click on the 'browse' button which opens a dialogue so you can find the file on your computer

browse.jpg

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Anonymous
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OK, I was trying to use the Reply below in your mail. ( In outlook)

Its OK now I hope

Åke

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steven-g
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OK, the file looks fine, the drawing has been created full size using millimetres which makes life really easy. I added another layout (A4) which shows just the North elevation. The scale bar is a dynamic block which you can alter to show a variety of scales just by highlighting it then click on the visibility arrow and select the scale you want. The viewport scale is set by highlighting the viewport and again click on the arrow that shows in the centre of the viewport and select the 1:100 scale. You will need to fill in the details on the title block (my Swedish isn't up to it 😀).

The title block and scale bars are blocks which you can insert into any new layouts.

Just be careful because although there is an Xref in your drawing it wasn't sent along with your dwg file but the insertion point is a great distance away from your drawing area, and it means when you create a new viewport that your drawing zooms a long way out making it look empty, which might give you a few problems.

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Great thanks for your detailed explanation, I will need to study it
carefully and try to understand line by line. Can I come back if something
is uncertain?

BR

Åke
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steven-g
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Of course, you can.

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Anonymous
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Good morning Steven,

slowly starting to become familiar with the Cad I have some more questions:

 

1) I have determined how to fill out the Title block and the Block editor- however I am not able to remove the Company stamp in the middle ( Erase function is not available), I can only add my specific text.

2) The black/white printing is set in the printer layout I guess, not in the drawing?

3) How do I do what you did i.e. create a new layout and define it for A4 and select the wished object(s) and add the (modified) Title block?

4) What is a new viewport?

and so on...

 

Appreciate if you could explain this for a amateur!

Åke

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steven-g
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1) You need to be in the block editor (BEDIT command) to alter the contents of the block, here's a video that covers the basics of using the block editor.

2) Printing B&W or color is set using the ctb file in the plot options.

3) At the bottom of your screen are the layouts, at the right hand of the layouts is a '+' this adds a new layout A4 by default. The page setup manager lets you make changes.

4) Webinar on viewports and plotting

It would be a good idea to get some formal training on AutoCAD, are there any colleges close to you, a lot will offer evening courses, or most resellers offer introductory courses to get you started with AutoCAD.

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Anonymous
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Great thanks Steven,

 

- I now managed to plot b&w. 

- I will study the webinar closely.

 

I agree to what you say but as I am retired and locked myself into my house (the one on the drawing) due to Covid-19.  I am not able to see so many helpers, my intention is to start rebuild the house based on the drawing in October.

You have probably seen that there are layers I havent been able to unlock from group so I managed to edit the third floor in my own way...he he. But good enough. ( removing a terrass and building an extended room with just glas front).

 

Take care

Åke

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steven-g
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👍 Good luck, there are a lot of good webinars and videos about, now would be a good time to watch a few. And keep healthy.

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Dear Steven,

this is very painfull..sorry, but I am stucked, in a way. There is something that I dont understand, commands do not always behave the same...?

OK, I have enclosed an updated drawing for your review, if you want.

My problem is to copy the "new"  FASAD MOT NORR below the original one to the new view "Norr alt.2" , whatever I do I fail, am not able to place it there, only somewhere next to its original position...? Sometimes even the new window dont open, sometimes I am not able to paste to it.'

AND yes, I know I have succeded to create to others but dont ask me how, or is it so that the one I try to copy is copied from the above original and modified by me?

Am I in the wrong mode or what ( green/blue highlight)?

 

You see, I am lost

 

BR

/Åke

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steven-g
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Hello Åke,

Your drawing looks fine, in modelspace there is a copy of the North elevation, the only possible problem I see is that your viewport in "Norr alt.2" has zoomed out to the extents of the drawing (I mentioned that before, there is an Xref insertion point a long way from the origin). To get back to seeing just the area of your drawing content then in the active viewport run the 'zoom' command but use the option 'center' and the coordinates 0,0 AutoCAD will then ask for a scale factor use 10,000 which from there you should now see part of your drawing and you can pan and zoom to your elevation. Do you know what this Xref contains? is it important to your drawing or could you just delete it to stop this problem happening?

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Anonymous
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Hello Steven,
I beleive you got the correct understanding and my reflection to this reference issue is:

We are in total six (6) villas along the same beach and there is a large situation drawing 1:500 cocering all houses with sorrounding are and different views etc. Can it be so that this drawing contain the ref and my drawing is just left and all other objects are removed?
Shall I see if I can find the original large drawing in my properties ( came with the house so it is my property) ?
Or sm I again out in the space🙄?
Åke
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Anonymous
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Here you go! Can this be the explanation to the reference issue despite of the content in detail?

BR

Åke

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Anonymous
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Try again

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pendean
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Why do you have A3 sheet sizes in your layouts when your titleblocks are the much larger A1 size? I'm curious if that is perhaps adding to the confusion with output.

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