Copy and Paste failure Autocad LT 2014

[Anonymous]

Hello all, first post here so please excuse any mistakes in etiquette.

I perform IT for a Architectural Glass and Metal company that utilizes Autocad and lately one of the user's has started experiencing the following error when performing a copy and paste later in the day.  (IE it works in the am but as the day progresses fails with this error)

Command: _pasteclip Duplicate definition of block BAY TAG ignored.
Substituting [simplex.shx] for [scadline.shx].
Substituting [simplex.shx] for [scadline.shx].
Specify insertion point:

In my research I came across this solution but I am running into an issue:

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Causes:

Your file contains AEC content that cannot be handled by your AutoCAD program.

Solution:Use the -EXPORTTOAUTOCAD command to remove all AEC content from the drawing.

1. At the command prompt, enter -EXPORTTOAUTOCAD and press Enter. (Be sure to precede the command with a dash.)
2. Select Format > 2000.
3. Either accept the file name/location or type a new name and location and press Enter.

Example:

Command: -EXPORTTOAUTOCAD
Export options [Format/Bind/bind Type/Maintain/Prefix/Suffix/?] <Enter for filename>: FORMAT
Enter file format [r14/2000/2004/2007/2010/2013] <2000>: 2000
Export options [Format/Bind/bind Type/Maintain/Prefix/Suffix/?] <Enter for filename>: ENTER
Export drawing name <E:\TEMP\ACAD-APOIOS PARA MODULO DE VANTE-FL 01.dwg>: ENTER

1. Reopen the file created above then save it. (AEC content is removed automatically.)
2. If your file contains XREFs, you need to repeat this process for each xref file separately.

The Ctrl+C and Ctrl+V commands will work again on the output file.

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The problem I run into is step 3.  I run the export and no issue.  I select or type FORMAT and it prompts to enter file format however it displays as follows:

"Enter file format <>:"  and not "Enter file format [r14/2000/2004/2007/2010/2013] <2000>:"

 I attempted to type 2000 anyway and I receive the error "Invalid Option Keyword."

This makes me think it might not be an AEC content error since this error is not about a duplicate definition but a substitution yet I have found nothing else that directly matches this error with substitution and insertion point.  It's also important to keep in mind that after a pc reboot this copy and paste works fine but starts to error out later in the day.  I have not been able to link it to any specific portion or aspect of the file.  (Ie it's not always the same block that is copied)

[cadffm]

I can not see an ERROR in your Post?
Duplicate and ignore - thats normal if in target file a block with the same name existing.
Shx: In the Blockdefinition of the targetfile there are fonts used that in you installation are not availabe.

[Anonymous]

Maybe error it she wrong word. What occurs when the copy and paste are performed is no paste and the following message is displayed at the botom of her autcad screen:

Command: _pasteclip Duplicate definition of block BAY TAG ignored.
Substituting [simplex.shx] for [scadline.shx].
Substituting [simplex.shx] for [scadline.shx].
Specify insertion point:

This occurs after the user has been copying and pasting through the cntrl+c and cntrl+V commands throughout the day.  It randomly starts happening and she has to reboot the pc before she can go back in and copy and paste the same section without any issues.

[cadffm]

Ok, if this issue appears and you save the target and source file,
Exit Acad, restart Acad and open both files, try it again:
Issue still appears?

Then it is possible a problem with memory and the clipboard.
CleanUp your %Temp% Folder and check free local disk space.

[pendean]

Can you post a DWG with this problem here for us to try? Point to the objects in question that fail to copy/paste so we know what to look for.

[Anonymous]

Sorry for the delayed response.  Was waiting on my end user:

She states that she has done this a bunch of times. She saved both files, closed out of autocad, then also shut the computer down completely and then try again. She did discover that if she closes out of everything and opens up the xref files, saves and closes them and opens her other files back up it lets her copy paste for a little while before again failing.

I also want to advise this is occurring all within the same drawing.  The end user is not copying from one file to another but within the same file.

At this time I am unable to upload a DWG but I am waiting on a response from the team.

[pendean]

FWIW copy/paste in AutoCAD is a very simple action: the program writes a temp file in your user's WIndows Log-in Temp folder, then inserts it back again.

Could it be your user's session is unable to delete and overwrite that temp file (always the same name) in the user's log-in temp folder?
Or does that cluttered folder just need to be emptied to cure the issue?

[Anonymous]

I am 99% certain I did check the temp folder for both being full and for permissions but I will revisit this and update this accordingly.

[Anonymous]

I double checked my temp settings, made the user a local admin to confirm no permission issues and even ran/re-ran hard drive disk checks and windows 10 system health restores.

The end user is currently testing these changes and if she decides to provide an file to upload then I will provide that next.

What is screwing with my head on this is the inconsistent nature of the problem.  It's not every time or every day nor can we pinpoint it to a specific part of her drawing that she is copying and pasting.

[Anonymous]

The user provided me with the requested file for your review.  If this is the incorrect file let me know.

[cadffm]

I can reproduce the problem.

There are some problems with that file and one of this is the well known DGN linetype problem.

AutoCAD® DGN Hotfix
https://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/autocad/downloads/caas/downloads/content/autocad-C2-AE-dgn-ho...

But you have only the LT-Version and can´t use that Fix, so read this workaounds to fix problems
https://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/autocad/troubleshooting/caas/sfdcarticles/sfdcarticles/AutoCA...

Independent of this, you can (should) also use commands like AUDIT and PURGE afterwards - see Help [F1].

And RECOVERALL / RECOVER for open a File (it is like Audit to fix problem on open the file, but it isn´t identical to audit)

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For example:
The attached file should work much better (the XRef I have unfortunately not to check / edit)

[pendean]

Your posted file has the following clutter:

Items Purged | Purge Status
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DGN Data.................. | Purged : 4522
DGN ComplexData........... | Purged : 66856
Blocks.................... | Purged : 39
Registry Applications..... | Purged : 10
Annotation Scales......... | Purged : 16

I suspect the XREF is equally littered with similar junk.

Your user need to get in the habit of using PURGE command with the bottom two boxes on the pop-up checked to eliminate these type of clutter inherited from the Microstation Source file or blocks they like to use.

As for copy/paste, your file seems to behave normally here before and after the cleanup.