Borders in paperspace

[Anonymous]

Hi everyone,

My question today regards borders in paperspace.

What I want to know is can I create a border in paperspace that will stay there even when nothing exists in modelspace. My job requires me to create P&ID drawings, so all my drawings must be the same size.

I already have my border drawn up in modelspace, but I want to be able to have a clean canvas on modelspace that I can draw on but then when I switch to one of the layouts it will be inside the border, ready for printing

Cheers,

Ryan

[Anonymous]

Hi Ryan, You can set up a drawing template (.dwt) that will then bring in your drawing border in Layout space. Just insert it as a block in a drawing and use the save as function to make your DWT file. You can then choose this file whenever you start a new drawing and the border will be there ready for you. It's always better to keep your borders in Layout space (IMO) and to used scaled viewports. you get much better layouts and they're much easier to set out on the sheet and manipulate. Hope this helps, Robbo

[Anonymous]

Hi Robbo,

Aye that helps a lot, but is there any way to have my Layouts with my border, but my modelspace without?

I'll attach some images.

The first one shows my border in modelspace, however I would rather it wasn't there.

My second one shows the same border applied to an A3 layout.

Can I draw in modelspace which will then appear in the layout even if my border isnt in modelspace?

It's a little hard to put into words, Im new to AutoCAD.

Cheers,

Ryan

[Anonymous]

You can literally copy and paste the actual border into Layout space as an object. Then it's not in your model space and you don't have a viewport to show your border - it actually lives in the layout space. Your viewports then just show whatever you're working on in Model Space. Robbo

[pendean · Accepted solution]

1. Start a new empty DWG file.
2. Draw your titleblock "border" to the actual size in modelspace: for example, if the paper is 24"x36", draw it to fit that sheet size (minus your printer margin size).
3. Save this file.
4. Open the destination file where you need this 'border': go to the layout in question, start XREF command, select the file you created above and attach it. Tada! Tht's how we all do it all day long for all our files.

But what you are doing is a little weird: IMHO do NOT draw paperspace content in modespace first if you must do it all in the same file: you can draw in paperspace instead, the first and only time.
But unless this is a one off layout my prop[osed method above is the better approach for projects with more than one DWG and one layout.