Zoom extents zooms way too far

[Anonymous]

Title pretty much sums it up. When I do zoom extents it zooms out so far and it takes me forever to zoom in and find my drawing again. This happens even if I select all and delete everything and then draw a circle at the origin so I know I don't have any fragments somewhere out in the drawing. Help please!

[Anonymous]

hi
Any chance that limits might be affecting the file? I'm a relatively new user so take my advice lightly. But I recall from way back in the day that limits settings could give you that behavior.

HTH

[Anonymous]

I had considered that also but changing the limits doesn't seem to help the problem. Thanks for trying.

[Anonymous]

Something is out there. Post the file after you have erased everything and
maybe we can find the problem.

Brad

wrote in message news:[email protected]...
Title pretty much sums it up. When I do zoom extents it zooms out so far
and it takes me forever to zoom in and find my drawing again. This happens
even if I select all and delete everything and then draw a circle at the
origin so I know I don't have any fragments somewhere out in the drawing.
Help please!

[Civil3DReminders_com]

Also try selecting all of the objects in the drawing and then using the wheel to zoom out a little (in case you have a toolbar covering part of the screen) and you should be able to find the trouble object, well sometimes not. The grips make small objects easier to see.

Christopher
http://civil-3d.blogspot.com/

[Anonymous]

Here is the offending file hopefully somebody can beat it into submission. There is nothing in it except one circle at 0,0 with a radius of 100.

[Anonymous]

After auditing, deleting the layouts and your 100' circle, purging and
selecting all, I get 14 objects in the file. 13 are in model space. There
are eight blocks that cannot be purged. I am guessing your problem has
something to with these blocks. Have tried several things, but cannot find
them even though I can select the 13 objects. I tried to erase the 13
objects, but they are still there after the erase. I tried listing them but
nothing came up other than 13 objects. The audit did find errors. I would
try wblocking to a new file and starting over or going to a backup from
before the problem started.

Brad
C3D 2008
XP Pro

wrote in message news:[email protected]...
Here is the offending file hopefully somebody can beat it into submission.
There is nothing in it except one circle at 0,0 with a radius of 100.

[Anonymous]

13 of the objects are the PointGroups and don't have any effect on the
Extents. There are 3 objects of the type "AcMapBulkFeature". Deleting these
via ActiveX lisp fixed the problem.

Here's the quick lisp I used. Note that I have no idea WHAT the BulkFeature
objects are or what they may be doing. It doesn't appear to make this
drawing unstable, but make sure you have a good back-up of the drawing
before using it.

(defun c:deletebulk ()
(vl-load-com)
(vlax-for ent
(vla-get-modelspace
(vla-get-activedocument
(vlax-get-acad-object)))
(if (eq (vla-get-objectname ent) "AcMapBulkFeature")
(vla-delete ent)
)
)
(princ)
)

HTH,
Jeff

wrote in message news:[email protected]...
Here is the offending file hopefully somebody can beat it into submission.
There is nothing in it except one circle at 0,0 with a radius of 100.

[Anonymous]

When I get tired of looking for the problem I set the zoom limits to my drawing and then use "zoom limits" (zl) instead of "zoom extents".

[Anonymous]

Draw a line from a snap point on one of the objects in the drawing to 0,0,0. Select all objects (including the new line) and hit ctrl + C. Open a new file and hit ctrl "v" and paste anywhere in the drawing. Select all and move the pasted objects by selecting the 0,0,0 point of the line as the Base point, with the second point 0,0,0. Now delete the line and try zoom extents.

[marlo99]

Zoom Extents zooming too far.

FRAMESELECTION <1>: 0

Simply type FRAMESELECTION at the command line.

Set value to 0.

When set to 1 invisible frames appear around blocks within a drawing.

This affects the Zoom Extents command.

When set to 0 the Zoom extents command ignores the invisible frames and zooms to the limits of your drawing.

cheers

marlo99

[marlo99 · Accepted solution]

I`ve had the same problem.

1. Yes, sometimes it is a layer turned off or frozen. Simply find offending layer/object and delete it then try ZE again.

     It that does not work then try this:

2. If that is not the problem then some blocks have a "hidden" boundary frame around them (why i don`t know).

Simply type:
Command: FRAMESELECTION
Enter new value for FRAMESELECTION <0>:

or create your own macro ^C^C_FRAMESELECTION;0; and add it to your own toolbar.

I hope this helps.

marlo555

Please see attachment. Frameselection set to "0" will turn off the frame boundary, then ZE Will work.

[hencoop · Accepted solution]

Old school trick is wblock.
Instead of * use selection for what to write out. Select your circle and write it to a new file. Use the new file.

[Anonymous]

First copy what you want to keep with a basepoint Ctrl+Shift+c

R click > Quick Select > OK (some of the settings may need to be changed but i have usually just used the default that is there). > then delete anything that is selected. 

Then paste your objects back ctr+v

zoom extents and you should be good

[hencoop]

When working with Civil 3D Objects, it is highly recommended that you DO NOT copy and paste any of them.  They tend to bring all of their related objects with them and really screw up the contents of the prospector with duplicate names.  Besides.  It is C3D objects that are causing the zoom area problem.

[Anonymous]

audit

-purge (all)

Zoom extents

worked for me.

I am working with 2015 and this seems to be done in a newer version of C3D, so I don't get the full C3D objects (just what comes through with the object enabler)

So it's probably some C3D object causing the issue.

[Anonymous]

I do apologize I responded as if working with autoCAD in general. That is the solution when i had this problem. I do not work in civil 3D. I should have taken that into consideration.

[Anonymous]

This worked for me. Thanks!

[Anonymous]

Thanks for this, this was bugging me for hours and costing a lot of time and your response really did the trick. Much appreciated. So glad that people like you take the time to help others. Much Appreciated.

[Anonymous]

I tried all of the proposed solutions above, however none works, except this one. Simply copy your drawing to clipboard.

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@Anonymous wrote:

First copy what you want to keep with a basepoint Ctrl+Shift+c

R click > Quick Select > OK (some of the settings may need to be changed but i have usually just used the default that is there). > then delete anything that is selected. 

Then paste your objects back ctr+v

zoom extents and you should be good

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