WIPEOUT TRANSPARENCY NOT PLOTTING OR PUBLISHING

WIPEOUT TRANSPARENCY NOT PLOTTING OR PUBLISHING

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WIPEOUT TRANSPARENCY NOT PLOTTING OR PUBLISHING

AutoMarcus
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wipeout not workingPNG.PNGwipout.PNGHi All

I made a post similar to do with publish.

However its also happening when plotting normally

 

i have a viewport that goes under my part of my title block.

i use wipeout to stop the viewport plotting through my title block.

 

it used to work, not sure if it is related but since installing the hotfix 2020.1.2 pdf edit hotfix

the wipeout isn't working 

as shown here

 

please not i have ticked plot transparency and tried  acad pdf high and low qualities and other plot to pdf options

 
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vinodkl
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Hi,

 

Can you check if you have the option "plot paperspace last" enabled in the plot?

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Thomas_Stuehle
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Hello @AutoMarcus 

 

Did the post by @vinodkl  helped you and answered your question?

 

To give alternative steps - using polygonal viewports could make it possible for you to also avoid having a need to use wipeout to stop the viewport plotting through your title block.

 

polygonal_viewport.png

 

You could define this polygonal viewport around your title blocks and the data would not shine through.

 

If one of the suggestions helped, feel free to click on the button "Mark as Solution". Thus also other users can benefit from the information. In case you still need help please feel free to provide an update here so we as Community know how we can help you best moving forward.

 

Best regards,

Thomas

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AutoMarcus
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Hi all

Its 7pm here in Australia. I will reply tomorrow.

Thankyou for all your help.

 

Yes i am aware of polygonal viewpoints.  I once used them all the time a few years back. Untill I discovered they were contributing to acad crashes.

 

The thing is nothing has changed except this hotfix. Which is causing others to have plot and publish transparency and wipe out issues in my opinion.

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RobDraw
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Polygonal viewport is the way to go. Wipeouts are notoriously buggy and have been for decades. Lesser of two evils.


Rob

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AutoMarcus
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hi mate

yes it is ticked

plot transparency.PNG

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vinodkl
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Hi,

 

Try to set the wipeout under the titlebock using "DRAWORDER". Type in the command DRAWORDER and then select wipeout and then chose the option "under the object" and now select the title block, so the wipeout always stays under the title block. If this doesn't work, try attaching the file so that we can test it from our end. 

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AutoMarcus
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draw order was the first thing i did.

 

what i find interesting is so many others have had the same issue all of a sudden just recently.

 

i have just upgraded to 2021 so see if that got rid of the problem, nope.

 

plotting any transparency with publish or plot comes up with either layers above a transparent image background not plotted to pdf, and / or wipeouts not working when drawn over a viewport.

 

all when they worked perfectly fine a few weeks ago.

 

if i get time this afternoon i will upload a drawing with all of our proprietary info removed

 

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Alfred.NESWADBA
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Hi,

 

plotting with transparency should only be used when really needed, as

  • it converts part of the geometry to raster
  • the PDF gets much larger (or plot-output)
  • sometimes you loose the text-search ability inside DXF

 

Wipeouts are developed (my understanding) to hide objects behind, not to make it transparent and then only partially hide/fade out entities behind.

Wipeouts are a strange thing too, I had a lot of issues with them and avoid them anyway. The alternative is to use a hatch with pattern SOLID (color 255,255,255) as

  • I can more easy find and select the objects
  • I can control color/transparency/... by the layer properties (as I have these hatches on a "wipeout"-layer 😉 )
  • hatches can really fill arc/splined objects (wipeouts create segmented arcs and so a lot of unnecessary endpoint-object snaps)

 

I don't have issues with polygonal viewports (at least not that much as I had with wipeouts).

It may be that you get issues with display (like missing viewcube if you clip the right-upper part), but never had crashes because of polygonal viewports.

 

- alfred -

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vinodkl
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Hi,

 

The wipeout was not working in your drawing because it is in "DEFPOINT" layer😄

Changing the layer fixed the problem.

And I personally don't prefer the table with no fill color when it overlaps on other objects, as the values will be hardly visible. You could change the fill color to 255,255,255 and the text color to 250 so that the text in the table will be visible and then objects behind the table will not be visible and in this way you could avoid the wipeout as well.

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Message 11 of 14

RobDraw
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Defpoints?


Rob

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AutoMarcus
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defpoints

oh i am having a blonde moment 😂🤣

so embarressing

 

i wonder who changed my template? 

 

that wouldn't account for the xref not plotting above the image though 

 

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AutoMarcus
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cheers mate

oh i am so embarressed

i dont know how that changed to defpoints layer

 

 

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sham_saqlain89
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Try Oleframe > change value to 1 

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