Text and Leaders in Paperspace are under modelspace viewport.

[Anonymous]

Hi, you guys are great and have helped me a few times.

I have a little problem that is more of an annoyance, here goes:

I use x-ref's in model space and label in paper space. My problem is that the leaders and text I paper space occasionally go behind the modelspace viewport and I can't see them. Draw order doesn't help because you can't select bring to front, send to back, bring above objects or send under objects when its a paperspace/modelspace in viewport thing

I know that when I print, I have 'plot paperspace last' checked off so my print will be fine. However, it bothers me that I can't make it look right on the screen.

Do you have any suggestions?

Thank you in advance!

[Anonymous]

Hi, you guys are great and have helped me a few times.

I have a little problem that is more of an annoyance, here goes:

I use x-ref's in model space and label in paper space. My problem is that the leaders and text I paper space occasionally go behind the modelspace viewport and I can't see them. Draw order doesn't help because you can't select bring to front, send to back, bring above objects or send under objects when its a paperspace/modelspace in viewport thing

I know that when I print, I have 'plot paperspace last' checked off so my print will be fine. However, it bothers me that I can't make it look right on the screen.

Do you have any suggestions?

Thank you in advance!

[Anonymous]

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@Anonymous wrote:

Hi, you guys are great and have helped me a few times.

I have a little problem that is more of an annoyance, here goes:

I use x-ref's in model space and label in paper space. My problem is that the leaders and text I paper space occasionally go behind the modelspace viewport and I can't see them. Draw order doesn't help because you can't select bring to front, send to back, bring above objects or send under objects when its a paperspace/modelspace in viewport thing

I know that when I print, I have 'plot paperspace last' checked off so my print will be fine. However, it bothers me that I can't make it look right on the screen.

Do you have any suggestions?

Thank you in advance!

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Can you post a sample dwg that shows this behavior?

[Anonymous]

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@Anonymous wrote:

Hi, you guys are great and have helped me a few times.

I have a little problem that is more of an annoyance, here goes:

I use x-ref's in model space and label in paper space. My problem is that the leaders and text I paper space occasionally go behind the modelspace viewport and I can't see them. Draw order doesn't help because you can't select bring to front, send to back, bring above objects or send under objects when its a paperspace/modelspace in viewport thing

I know that when I print, I have 'plot paperspace last' checked off so my print will be fine. However, it bothers me that I can't make it look right on the screen.

Do you have any suggestions?

Thank you in advance!

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Can you post a sample dwg that shows this behavior?

[Anonymous]

No, I cannot, as soon as I print, plot or make a pdf the leaders and text are on top/in front because of the plot paperspace last command in printing. It is only on the screen that it shows up behind the viewport.

Thank you

[Anonymous]

No, I cannot, as soon as I print, plot or make a pdf the leaders and text are on top/in front because of the plot paperspace last command in printing. It is only on the screen that it shows up behind the viewport.

Thank you

[Anonymous]

Just did a print screen.

Can you tell from that?

Thanks

[Anonymous]

Just did a print screen.

Can you tell from that?

Thanks

[Anonymous]

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@Anonymous wrote:

No, I cannot, as soon as I print, plot or make a pdf the leaders and text are on top/in front because of the plot paperspace last command in printing. It is only on the screen that it shows up behind the viewport.

Thank you

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That's why a dwg would be handy to have a look at.

[Anonymous]

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@Anonymous wrote:

No, I cannot, as soon as I print, plot or make a pdf the leaders and text are on top/in front because of the plot paperspace last command in printing. It is only on the screen that it shows up behind the viewport.

Thank you

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That's why a dwg would be handy to have a look at.

[pendean]

It's looks like a DRAWORDER problem since you are inside the viewport. Do REGEN or REGENALL commands not fix the display? Your video card is being choked by AutoCAD and it's not refreshing fast enough.

You need to learn how to use Windows Snippit tool: it's not 1990 anymore, no need to paste into MSWord docs 🙂 like this

[pendean]

It's looks like a DRAWORDER problem since you are inside the viewport. Do REGEN or REGENALL commands not fix the display? Your video card is being choked by AutoCAD and it's not refreshing fast enough.

You need to learn how to use Windows Snippit tool: it's not 1990 anymore, no need to paste into MSWord docs 🙂 like this

[Anonymous]

Regen and regenall don't solve the problem

I will use Snippit from now on, just need the time to figure it out lol

Thank you

[Anonymous]

Regen and regenall don't solve the problem

I will use Snippit from now on, just need the time to figure it out lol

Thank you

[pendean · Accepted solution]

Does DRAWORDER command fix it?
is the actual wall hiding these, or just that solid hatch in the wall?
What is DRAWORDERCTL set to?
What is hATCHTOBACK set to?
What is TEXTTOFRONT set to?

Tutorial for Windows Snippit Tool https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/13776/windows-use-snipping-tool-to-capture-screenshots

[pendean · Accepted solution]

Does DRAWORDER command fix it?
is the actual wall hiding these, or just that solid hatch in the wall?
What is DRAWORDERCTL set to?
What is hATCHTOBACK set to?
What is TEXTTOFRONT set to?

Tutorial for Windows Snippit Tool https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/13776/windows-use-snipping-tool-to-capture-screenshots

[Anonymous]

Dean

That is a wall with solid hatch, faded back for printing.

draworderctl (3)

I already did hatchtoback and texttofront, neither helped. A regenall after both made no change.

Thank you for the tutorial, I will use Snippit from now on

[Anonymous]

Dean

That is a wall with solid hatch, faded back for printing.

draworderctl (3)

I already did hatchtoback and texttofront, neither helped. A regenall after both made no change.

Thank you for the tutorial, I will use Snippit from now on

[CADmonkey_UK_Building_Services]

This is what I do:

1. Set up main Viewport and Lock it.

2. Select it to see Grips

3. Pick top right corner grip

4. type 'c' for copy

5. drop the grip (with Ortho on) a few inches to the left along the top edge of the drawing. Now you have 2 overlapping Viewports, one a bit wider than the other.

6. Press Escape to clear the Grips, then select the 'larger' viewport top left corner grip and bring it back to the top right corner of the the New viewport. You now have your original Viewport split into a perfect pair.

7. Now bring one corner of the smaller Viewport down and you have a perfectly aligned L-shaped view that gives you room to put some notes, tables, etc. You don't need to worry about Draworder now.

8. Repeat as needed.

[CADmonkey_UK_Building_Services]

This is what I do:

1. Set up main Viewport and Lock it.

2. Select it to see Grips

3. Pick top right corner grip

4. type 'c' for copy

5. drop the grip (with Ortho on) a few inches to the left along the top edge of the drawing. Now you have 2 overlapping Viewports, one a bit wider than the other.

6. Press Escape to clear the Grips, then select the 'larger' viewport top left corner grip and bring it back to the top right corner of the the New viewport. You now have your original Viewport split into a perfect pair.

7. Now bring one corner of the smaller Viewport down and you have a perfectly aligned L-shaped view that gives you room to put some notes, tables, etc. You don't need to worry about Draworder now.

8. Repeat as needed.

[RobDraw]

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@CADmonkey_UK_Building_Services wrote:

This is what I do:

1. Set up main Viewport and Lock it.

2. Select it to see Grips

3. Pick top right corner grip

4. type 'c' for copy

5. drop the grip (with Ortho on) a few inches to the left along the top edge of the drawing. Now you have 2 overlapping Viewports, one a bit wider than the other.

6. Press Escape to clear the Grips, then select the 'larger' viewport top left corner grip and bring it back to the top right corner of the the New viewport. You now have your original Viewport split into a perfect pair.

7. Now bring one corner of the smaller Viewport down and you have a perfectly aligned L-shaped view that gives you room to put some notes, tables, etc. You don't need to worry about Draworder now.

8. Repeat as needed.

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How would that work for the OPs situation?

[RobDraw]

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@CADmonkey_UK_Building_Services wrote:

This is what I do:

1. Set up main Viewport and Lock it.

2. Select it to see Grips

3. Pick top right corner grip

4. type 'c' for copy

5. drop the grip (with Ortho on) a few inches to the left along the top edge of the drawing. Now you have 2 overlapping Viewports, one a bit wider than the other.

6. Press Escape to clear the Grips, then select the 'larger' viewport top left corner grip and bring it back to the top right corner of the the New viewport. You now have your original Viewport split into a perfect pair.

7. Now bring one corner of the smaller Viewport down and you have a perfectly aligned L-shaped view that gives you room to put some notes, tables, etc. You don't need to worry about Draworder now.

8. Repeat as needed.

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How would that work for the OPs situation?

[CADmonkey_UK_Building_Services]

Hmm, you are right I got the wrong end of the stick. Sorry.

[CADmonkey_UK_Building_Services]

Hmm, you are right I got the wrong end of the stick. Sorry.

[Anonymous]

I actually figured out how to solve this, or at least appear to solve it lol.

In the print command...select 'plot paperspace last'

Came out perfect.

Thanks all!

[Anonymous]

I actually figured out how to solve this, or at least appear to solve it lol.

In the print command...select 'plot paperspace last'

Came out perfect.

Thanks all!

[RobDraw]

But you said the prints were fine. Weren't you asking about the display?

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@Anonymous wrote:

I know that when I print, I have 'plot paperspace last' checked off so my print will be fine. However, it bothers me that I can't make it look right on the screen.

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[RobDraw]

But you said the prints were fine. Weren't you asking about the display?

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@Anonymous wrote:

I know that when I print, I have 'plot paperspace last' checked off so my print will be fine. However, it bothers me that I can't make it look right on the screen.

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[Anonymous]

This might help you and the others.

[Anonymous]

This might help you and the others.

[Anonymous]

Does DRAWORDER command fix it?
is the actual wall hiding these, or just that solid hatch in the wall?
What is DRAWORDERCTL set to?
What is hATCHTOBACK set to?
What is TEXTTOFRONT set to?

I didnt have any success with the above suggested commands, but found a solution:

Go into the viewport and set shademode to 2d wireframe.

Hope this helps 

[Anonymous]

Does DRAWORDER command fix it?
is the actual wall hiding these, or just that solid hatch in the wall?
What is DRAWORDERCTL set to?
What is hATCHTOBACK set to?
What is TEXTTOFRONT set to?

I didnt have any success with the above suggested commands, but found a solution:

Go into the viewport and set shademode to 2d wireframe.

Hope this helps 

[hung.doanxuan232]

I have same problem.
Command "AUDIT" is working with me.
can you try it?

[hung.doanxuan232]

I have same problem.
Command "AUDIT" is working with me.
can you try it?