Student Version is on Print

[Anonymous]

I have AutoCAD LT 2014 and just updated to AutoCAD 2019. All of my files that i am opening are saying that the they were made with a student version and this was not the case.

Help

[Anonymous]

We have NEVER EVER had a student version at this location. 

So it is coming off the internet you say, like if I want to download a drawing file from tens of thousands of product vendors.  So this kind of makes AutoCAD a real dud of a platform as you cannot use.  

As for this the statement "This drawing was saved with a Student Version of the product and marked with a plot stamp"

Well no it was not.

As for "sweeping all of our files".  We have over 25,000 employees, we have somewhere around 1.7 million AutoCAD *.dwg files.

Is this the official AutoDesk response?   Please be accurate as, I know where to direct our corporation's Legal Department.

[cadffm]

@Anonymous 

1. You are in a USER Forum, we can say what we what, your corporation's Legal Department gives you a smile, nothing more - sorry.

2. We have NEVER EVER had a student version at this location. 

    Ok, not in this location, but at home? in other companies? Internet?

    One or more files come from a Student version, a program with faulty DWG export,

    or somebody who's working with that files copied somethings from these files to your file(s) and used an older version.

    Doesn't matter where the worker worked or from where the EDU file came from, Your Students,

    Colleagues, Customers, Manufacturer (that would be very unusual, but theoretically possible)

3. "So this kind of makes AutoCAD a real dud of a platform as you cannot use. "

    Except one special version AutoCAD 2014SP1 alert the warning when you open such a file

    and working with data from these file in 2015 or higher is not a problem.

4. You are right, message is not perfect, but you can not alert about all possible cases just to say: It's not for commercial usage!"

5. Is this the official AutoDesk response? 

 We are not Autodesk, but: Autodesk tells you only the facts like we too, that's all.

 A Supporter like me would teach how it works,  would first explain everything as you can already read

 it here (and a little better), then strategy for new files inhouse and for new entries from outside

  and finally strategy for existing files.

6. Is this the official AutoDesk response?

 Official response is a link the rules and eula - whatever

 https://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/autocad/learn-explore/caas/sfdcarticles/sfdcarticles/FAQ-Rein...

 I am near to sure that you won't find a Person who talk as "AutoDESK".

7 . Why you post in a public user forum instead to ask the Support?

      https://knowledge.autodesk.com/de/contact-support/using-my-product

[RobDraw]

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@Anonymous wrote:

We have NEVER EVER had a student version at this location. 

So it is coming off the internet you say, like if I want to download a drawing file from tens of thousands of product vendors.  So this kind of makes AutoCAD a real dud of a platform as you cannot use.  

As for this the statement "This drawing was saved with a Student Version of the product and marked with a plot stamp"

Well no it was not.

As for "sweeping all of our files".  We have over 25,000 employees, we have somewhere around 1.7 million AutoCAD *.dwg files.

Is this the official AutoDesk response?   Please be accurate as, I know where to direct our corporation's Legal Department.

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Why is this suddenly an issue for such a large company?

Did you just upgrade?

Don't you have protocols for processing incoming files so that project files do not get "infected" with unwanted/harmful content?

[vojtech.zufnicek]

I am just facing this issue, and found, that drawing (attached) shows NO warning in ACAD2018 (which i used), but in ACAD2021 yes, there is.

And thats the point - how can i prevent my documents from beeing infeected by this virus, when i can not detect that in 2018? How can i stop accepting EDU drawings from my colleagues/vendors/suppliers, (solution from Autodesk https://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/autocad/troubleshooting/caas/sfdcarticles/sfdcarticles/Educat...) when i can not detect that (in 2018)?

So i understand confusion/anger from users, who made nothing wrong, just peacefully doing their job on their legal versions of systems, and suddenly they are violating terms-of-use, due to EDU versions of drawings, which they can detect.

[vojtech.zufnicek]

...drawings, which they can NOT detect.

[cadffm]

Hi,

"..drawings, which they can NOT detect."

Because your software don't read&write this information

" how can i prevent my documents from beeing infeected by this virus,"

1. This is not a virus

2. It isn't impossible that your drawings (create or just last saved in your software)

    get the education flag in your system,  so there isn't a need to "prevent".

3. Another thing are files from outside or old files, which one you NOT work on -

    but this wasn't your question!?

4. If you like: Install DWG TrueView 2019-2021 to check this

[pendean]

In AutoCAD2018, the EDU label was masked/hidden deliberately by Autodesk for whatever reason.
Then they changed their minds starting in AutOCAD2019 and newer versions as explained here https://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/autocad/troubleshooting/caas/sfdcarticles/sfdcarticles/FAQ-Re...

There is nothing you can do about either yourself today.

What else do you want to know?

[s.borello]

What happens if you xref the drawing with water mark into a fresh .dwg... then bind it and save... is the water mark still present?  Just tested it out... watermark gone.

[cadffm]

Normal.

Also a question of software version.

In 2019 and younger the education flag will not copy or inserted into other files.

As i wrote and you can read all these thing in the AKN document about the 2019 edu stamp

[vojtech.zufnicek]

@cadffm i just cheched this drawing with DWG TrueView 2021, conversion was succesful, no warning, no error. (For converted drawing, EDU mark is still there, but it was not surprise). For converted file ACAD2018 gets no warning, only ACAD2021 it detects EDU drawing. So i can not use Trueview2021 for checking for EDU drawings.

I understand, that using EDU drawing for commercial purpose is against EULA, violating of licence agreement, etc... and i dont want to do this. And i am in situation, that from my legaly purchased Autocad 2018 comes EDU drawings, which i can not detect.

So i´m (unsuccesfully at this time) searching for solution, how to detect (in bulk) EDU drawings, so i can handle them (refuse / export, whatever). We have mix of autocad versions due to some specific ad-ons and tools which we need, so we can not simply switch to 2021 versions.

(i tried JTB Edu finder from app store, but it´s not working for some reason)

@s.borello yes, watermark is gone. Also export to dxf and back to autocad works. Or copy & insert to new drawing.

[cadffm]

Hi,

Tools like "Edu finder" are the right choice for a bulk of files.

>>"i tried JTB Edu finder from app store, but it´s not working for some reason"

Write an eMail as BugReport to JTB.

(say, 2 ExpertElite Members more stated too: The trial doesn't work on different OS with 2019 and also 2020 not)

[cadffm]

>>"i just cheched this drawing with DWG TrueView 2021, conversion was succesful, "

Nobody talked about "conversion", i said TRUE VIEW - that's the main program and "just a viewer".

If you open an edu file you will the the warning alert.

[And yes, i am with you - but i am just a user like you and Adesk statement is: You have to make sure not to use edu files for commercial work 😞 ]

[vojtech.zufnicek]

about conversion, i thought i could use the log from conversion (same solution worked for older versions, , where EDU files could not be converted and were reported in reportlog), but this does not working in new version 😞