Stretch Vertex/Vertices/Grips Missing

[Anonymous]

I have insulation on a building which are rectangular prisms, and I need to put them in different walls. The insulation needs to be resized according to the boundaries of each section. For some reason, when I select the insulation it does not show the blue dots or stretch vertices on the face I am viewing. I would like to be able to click the vertex on an edge for example, and stretch or shrink that to the right size. If I draw a new rectangle somewhere, it seems to show the vertices for that new rectangle, but none of the existing objects. Have I accidentally turned off the grips somehow? I've attached an image where you can see in "the way I want it" there are blue dots in the center, corners, and edges at the midpoints. These blue dots are the grips or stretch vertices I am referring to. 

Thanks in advance!

[imadHabash]

Hi,

>> Have I accidentally turned off the grips somehow? <<

GRIPS system variable Controls the display of grips on selected objects

0	Hides grips
1	Displays grips
2	Displays additional midpoint grips on polyline segments

To adjust the size of the grips and the effective selection area used by the cursor when you snap to a grip, use GRIPSIZE.

type GRIPS in command line and try this values as you need.also you can try from OPTIONS command Grips options.(see attached image)

Good Luck..

[Anonymous]

Thanks for your timely response. This issue is not the grip settings. I have tried GRIPS 1 and 2. I have also confirmed that the grips size settings are adequate. If I draw a new rectangle, the grips are present. For some reason,  some objects have the grips and some don't. I have attached an image where you can see one panel has grips but the panel beside it does not have grips. 

[Patchy]

GRIPOBJLIMIT how many do you use?

Are they BLOCKS?  Change your GRIPBLOCK setting.

Post the actual drawing, the pictures don't help much.

[Anonymous]

GRIPOBJLIMIT is set to 100 which is the default and the max I believe. I've attached the drawing file and a screenshot below to show you what to look for in the file.  If you look at the face of the shed with the door opening, you will see that the pink insulation panels don't all have grips. Some do, and some don't. I don't know what the difference is or how to turn them on for those objects. 

[Patchy]

Thirty two thousand plus more  not 100 ☺☺☺

[Anonymous]

I stand corrected... I am new to this software! However, this is not the problem. Even when set to 0, some panels still don't show grips. The issue wasn't that it was at 100, because even then when I individually selected just one panel it wouldn't show grips. In the screenshot in my last post, I've only selected 7 objects, which is under the limit of 100.

[Patchy]

Like this?

BREP

[Anonymous]

Honestly, I have no idea whats going on in that picture. I don't think you're on the right track though. Look at this picture below. The panels selected with green arrows have the grips on the vertices and midpoints which allow me to resize the panels easily. While the ones selected with red arrows do not. Why are they not showing on some panels? How do I fix it? 

The same panels which don't show grips will continue not to show them even if they are selected individually. 

[Patchy]

Do you see all the grips for the insulation now?

You mixed different versions of your drawing and that is what you have.

I have no problem extrude the panel in any direction as showed in the previous picture.

[john.vellek]

Hi @Anonymous,

I am able to duplicate this behavior. However, I wonder how the objects were created that don't show the grips.  The ones that do are labeled as extrusions in Properties.

[Anonymous]

Thanks for finding the problem. So how do I fix it? 

[john.vellek]

HI @Anonymous,

I simply deleted them and created new panels since that was so fast and easy. Which brings me back to my question, how did these get created in the first place?

[Anonymous]

@john.vellek I made a couple of panels and then copied them to make the rest. Some panels were too large for other sections and I expected to extrude them by clicking the grips. Some panels had grips and some didn't. At this point I'm assuming it's a glitch... thanks for the help!

[Patchy · Accepted solution]

There are 3 type of grips for a solid.

Extrude

3dsolid drawn with 3d commands

and 1 would lost the grips if you modified the edges.

Your drawing mixed more than 1 type.

[Anonymous]

I had similar issue.

Try PEDIT and select all the lines that do not have the stretch grip. Then give YES

[sophiaBV-HICKORY]

I am having this same problem! And you described it right; I understood. Seems like the answer below didn't answer anything for me and I was wondering if you were able to fix it..? I'm thinking my shape is not flat and maybe snapped to topography I have behind