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Plotting linetypes to PDF with dot effect

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mzjensen
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Plotting linetypes to PDF with dot effect

mzjensen
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Does anyone know how to accomplish this type of dithered effect when plotting to PDF? The "dot screening" is not part of the linetype definition. It needs to be done at the plotting stage. My understanding was that this is controlled by toggling "dithering" on/off in the plot style, but that doesn't produce the desired result. We are using an STB, not CTB.

 

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Zachri Jensen, PE   |  
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Plotting linetypes to PDF with dot effect

Does anyone know how to accomplish this type of dithered effect when plotting to PDF? The "dot screening" is not part of the linetype definition. It needs to be done at the plotting stage. My understanding was that this is controlled by toggling "dithering" on/off in the plot style, but that doesn't produce the desired result. We are using an STB, not CTB.

 

mzjensen_0-1680217206659.png

 


Zachri Jensen, PE   |  
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TomBeauford
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The standard dot linetypes leave a lot to be desired, ones using TrueType fonts require their Text Style to work but solve you issues. Adjust the dot sizes and spacing as you need in an Arial.lin file.

As Arial is a Text Style in all my templates I have Large Dot and Arrow linetypes defined in Arial.lin to avoid having to add a Wingdings Text Style I wouldn't use for anything else.

*STriangle, Solid Triangle__/_\_/_\__/_\_/_\_/_\_
S,.000000001,-.05,["\U+25BA",Arial,S=0.02,R=90,Y=-.0019],-.05
*ARROWH,Arrowhead  >  >  >  >  >  >  >
A,.000001,-3,["\U+25BA",Arial,S=3,R=0,X=-1.35,Y=-1.35],.000001,-4
*ArialARROW,Arrow1  >  >  >  >  >  >  >
S,.000001,-3,["\U+25AC",Arial,S=3,R=0,X=-1.35,Y=-1.05],.000001,["\U+25BA",Arial,S=3,R=0,X=0.5,Y=-1.42],.000001,-4
*ArialDOT,Dot . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
A,0,-.125,["\U+2022",Arial,S=.05,Y=-.024],-.125
*ArialDOT2,Dot (.5x) ........................................
A,0,-.0625,["\U+2022",Arial,S=.05,Y=-.012],-.0625
*ArialDOTX2,Dot (2x) .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .
A,0,-.25,["\U+2022",Arial,S=.05,Y=-.048],-.25

 

64bit AutoCAD Map & Civil 3D 2023
Architecture Engineering & Construction Collection
2023
Windows 10 Dell i7-12850HX 2.1 Ghz 12GB NVIDIA RTX A3000 12GB Graphics Adapter
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The standard dot linetypes leave a lot to be desired, ones using TrueType fonts require their Text Style to work but solve you issues. Adjust the dot sizes and spacing as you need in an Arial.lin file.

As Arial is a Text Style in all my templates I have Large Dot and Arrow linetypes defined in Arial.lin to avoid having to add a Wingdings Text Style I wouldn't use for anything else.

*STriangle, Solid Triangle__/_\_/_\__/_\_/_\_/_\_
S,.000000001,-.05,["\U+25BA",Arial,S=0.02,R=90,Y=-.0019],-.05
*ARROWH,Arrowhead  >  >  >  >  >  >  >
A,.000001,-3,["\U+25BA",Arial,S=3,R=0,X=-1.35,Y=-1.35],.000001,-4
*ArialARROW,Arrow1  >  >  >  >  >  >  >
S,.000001,-3,["\U+25AC",Arial,S=3,R=0,X=-1.35,Y=-1.05],.000001,["\U+25BA",Arial,S=3,R=0,X=0.5,Y=-1.42],.000001,-4
*ArialDOT,Dot . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
A,0,-.125,["\U+2022",Arial,S=.05,Y=-.024],-.125
*ArialDOT2,Dot (.5x) ........................................
A,0,-.0625,["\U+2022",Arial,S=.05,Y=-.012],-.0625
*ArialDOTX2,Dot (2x) .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .
A,0,-.25,["\U+2022",Arial,S=.05,Y=-.048],-.25

 

64bit AutoCAD Map & Civil 3D 2023
Architecture Engineering & Construction Collection
2023
Windows 10 Dell i7-12850HX 2.1 Ghz 12GB NVIDIA RTX A3000 12GB Graphics Adapter
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TomBeauford
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We also use an STB, ours has three Plot Style levels of dithering or shading.

All output the same to PDF as they do to our plotter.

Is yours is plotting correctly but outputting to PDF differently?

64bit AutoCAD Map & Civil 3D 2023
Architecture Engineering & Construction Collection
2023
Windows 10 Dell i7-12850HX 2.1 Ghz 12GB NVIDIA RTX A3000 12GB Graphics Adapter
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We also use an STB, ours has three Plot Style levels of dithering or shading.

All output the same to PDF as they do to our plotter.

Is yours is plotting correctly but outputting to PDF differently?

64bit AutoCAD Map & Civil 3D 2023
Architecture Engineering & Construction Collection
2023
Windows 10 Dell i7-12850HX 2.1 Ghz 12GB NVIDIA RTX A3000 12GB Graphics Adapter
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mzjensen
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Are you able to share some screenshots of how the lines look in AutoCAD, your plot style settings, and then how the same lines look in the PDF output?


Zachri Jensen, PE   |  
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Are you able to share some screenshots of how the lines look in AutoCAD, your plot style settings, and then how the same lines look in the PDF output?


Zachri Jensen, PE   |  
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dany_rochefort
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@mzjensen I use that type of setup once in a while.  I use color 252,  set the ctb or stb file to '' use obeject color ''. Set the linetype to Dot, and the lineweight to 0.05. You can then use the Screening option for that color to fade it more if required... This is a pdf view

 

05.png

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@mzjensen I use that type of setup once in a while.  I use color 252,  set the ctb or stb file to '' use obeject color ''. Set the linetype to Dot, and the lineweight to 0.05. You can then use the Screening option for that color to fade it more if required... This is a pdf view

 

05.png

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mzjensen
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mzjensen
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Thanks @dany_rochefort. I thought about doing that, but the trouble is that it doesn't preserve the character of the original linetype. You'll notice in the example image posted originally that the actual linetypes are various types of dashes. Then the dot effect is applied in addition to that, effectively "chopping up" the linetype. Overriding the linetype and forcing everything to the basic dot pattern loses that definition.


Zachri Jensen, PE   |  

Thanks @dany_rochefort. I thought about doing that, but the trouble is that it doesn't preserve the character of the original linetype. You'll notice in the example image posted originally that the actual linetypes are various types of dashes. Then the dot effect is applied in addition to that, effectively "chopping up" the linetype. Overriding the linetype and forcing everything to the basic dot pattern loses that definition.


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dany_rochefort
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@mzjensen  I see.. You trying to achieve these dithered linetypes for normal autocad lines if i understand correctly?  Or you already have these original linetypes in a drawing?

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@mzjensen  I see.. You trying to achieve these dithered linetypes for normal autocad lines if i understand correctly?  Or you already have these original linetypes in a drawing?

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mzjensen
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mzjensen
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Yes, that is correct. So for a test case, just take a normal AutoCAD DASHED linetype and try to make it have the dotted/dithered effect only when plotting.

Zachri Jensen, PE   |  

Yes, that is correct. So for a test case, just take a normal AutoCAD DASHED linetype and try to make it have the dotted/dithered effect only when plotting.

Zachri Jensen, PE   |  

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