Panning while editing text, the pan does not move the same distance - ACAD 2016

[claimed4all]

Upgraded to Autocad 2016 from 2014.

When I pan normally, the drawing moves where I move the mouse at the same rate.

When I am in a text editor and I pan, where I move my mouse the drawing moves about 30% of that distance.  The pan is very slow.  This makes it tough when typing nots and panning back and fourth at objects.

I have looked at new or upddated system variables but I can not seem to find anything.

[Alfred.NESWADBA]

Hi,

am I right that you speak about a TEXT and not about an MTEXT? Or does that happen on both or only on MTEXT?

At least when I'm in edit-mode of a (simple) TEXT object, I can see that behaviour. Panning using middle mouse button takes the drawing not with the exact distance of the mouse way to the pan-direction, the drawing is a bit slower then I move my mouse, or with other words, it does not go the same distance compared to my cursor.

Whereas during a continuous movement it's maybe 5% to 10% (hard to measure), nothing I would have ever regonized by myself.

Now, with special tests it gets worse if you hold the middle mouse button and move the mouse in steps, so a bit to the left, wait a moment, a bit to the left, wait a moment .... and with special timing (correct short wait states) it's indeed so that I can move the mouse (in pan-mode, of course) and the drawing does not pan at all, it's like it's waiting for a more continuous movement.

It does not seem to be depending on hardware acceleration.

It does not seem to be depending on TTF or SHX.

Trying more with TEXT and MTEXT ... it happens also with MTEXT, but not that bad.

But sorry to say, I don't know what to do and how to get that corrected.

- alfred -

[claimed4all]

Everything you said is spot on.  Must be a system variable or option someplace since my 2014 did not have the same behavior.

[wispoxy]

I can confirm, you're absolutely correct. This happens to me too. It never really bothered me enough to create a post about it.

[Alfred.NESWADBA]

Hi,

>> Must be a system variable

Definitly not, not any system variable controls the speed of PAN to be not equal to the speed of the cursor!

I see that more as bug and think it appeared after AutoCAD 2014 as with release 2015 the display engine got a lot of changes ... and there it's "built in" 😉

- alfred -

[bryce.thelin]

I was thinking it might be a hardware acceleration issue, or maybe the new High Quality Geometry or Line Smoothing settings in GRAPHICSCONFIG, but if you turn off hardware acceleration, those settings are off. Could it be something due to drawing complexity?

I do not seem to be able to reproduce the issue. My test is:

1. Launch AutoCAD 2016 and click Start Drawing to open a new blank drawing.
2. Draw a rectangle so I can visually reference something to pan.
3. Enter the command TEXT or MTEXT and type a letter.
4. Hold down the middle mouse button and pan side to side.

The drawing moves spot on my mouse cursor.

What you guys are experiencing might have something to do with DirectX 11. AutoCAD 2015 and 2016 both use this by default. AutoCAD 2014 uses DirectX 9. Try forcing AutoCAD 2016 to use DirectX 9 and see if that changes panning behavior:

http://knowledge.autodesk.com/article/How-to-make-AutoCAD-run-with-DirectX-9

Should make sure your video drivers are current too, and even run the DirectX installer to make sure things are up-to-date.

[Alfred.NESWADBA]

Hi,

>> Could it be something due to drawing complexity?

No, just one text created within a new drawing.

>> I do not seem to be able to reproduce the issue. My test is:

Please find attached a zip-file containing:

• a video which shows the issue
• a drawing so you have the exact same data as I have while testing
• a SVF-file, so you know all my sysvar's

As you can see, with a TEXT object, while in edit mode the PAN-cursor is moving faster then the characters of the text (so faster than panning modelspace itself)

With a MTEXT object the difference is not that big.

And the last scene - using small steps with high acceleration and breaks with the mouse - makes it worse.

Tested with:

• Laptop: Window 8.1x64, 32GB, nVidia GTX780M (driver version 358.50), AutoCAD 2016 SP1 (hw-acceleration on and off, both tested)
• Oracle VmBox: Windows 10x64 6GB, Virtual Box Adapter (display), AutoCAD 2016 SP1 (hw-acceleration off)

Let me know if you need anything more than this material.

- alfred -

[claimed4all]

I created a new drawing and still have the issue.  Drawing moves about 10% of what my cursor moves.  Currently running Direct X 11.

[bryce.thelin]

Thank you for the video Alfred! I can reproduce the issue now, although it seems worse with the MTEXT editor on my two computers. Also, if I move the mouse very fast back and forth, that will throw it off a lot. The text editor interface is having a hard time keeping up. I will go ahead and log a bug report about this with AutoCAD development. Thanks OP for posting about this!

Edit: It now seems worse with normal TEXT and with MTEXT. Hmm.

[claimed4all]

Thanks for looking into this Bryce.  I have already had several users complain about this feature.  We Run Civil3D and we have a lot of panning and text editing going on, so getting this solved would be awesome.

[Anonymous]

Sorry to bump this old thread however we have just upgraded to 2017 and 2 of our staff are having this exact issue.  Did it ever get resolved?

The only common thing these 2 users have that is different from the others is they are using programmable gaming mice whereas the others are using vanilla mice.  Acad 2014 works fine with these mice so it's just since installing 2017 they have had a problem.  Normal pan works fine just when in the text editor it's really sluggish.

Thanks

Steve

[bryce.thelin]

Hi Steve, nope, no resolution on this yet. The development team did confirm that it is an issue though back after I logged the bug report.

[Anonymous]

I am also having this issue and it is quite frustrating when coordinating notes and trying to nudge the drawing over to look at a particular item.

I don't recall having this issues several years ago - but this needs fixed.

[Anonymous]

Hello, I too am having this same issue and would like to know what sort of fix they have in store for us.  

Hopefully it will be soon! 

[g_leusink]

I just upgraded to 2017 from 2014, and I'm having the same issue described above.  It's a bit disappointing to find the issue has been recognized for a while now with no resolution.  😞  I guess it doesn't kill productivity too much...but it is going to drive me nuts.

[Anonymous]

I did upgrade to 2018 and I have not experienced that issue since the update.  Maybe that maybe a solution but that's all I have so far...

[gotphish001]

Mine does this too. I also use a gaming mouse, not sure if that's a cause though. I guess I thought it was working as intended when in text so you didn't scroll the text box off the screen and lose where it's at accidentally.

I have a good work around for those that need to pan bigger distances while in text. Instead of trying to pan, just mouse wheel zoom out then hover the mouse over where you wanted to pan to, then zoom back in. The zoom centers on the mouse. This is an old feature but works good to get around this issue. The mouse still moves smoothly when not holding pan in text, so the extra step of the zoom doesn't affect productivity at all. 

[owen66]

In 2018 this is still an issue.

It feels like ACAD is having trouble rendering each bit of text in the editor. It's also compounded if the text runs off the screen or is split between columns.

[falconbird]

Bruce,

I am running AutoCAD2018 and having the same problem. Has Autodesk resolved this bug?

[SMROTS]

Worked for me on 2021 CAD. Having specs in multiple columns across the whole sheet, my success to pan and edit was close to zero. 

Thanks!